GANGNAM STYLE

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by humnumb » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:57 am

beats me wrote:Saying Gangnam Style is a good representation and intro to K-pop would be like saying the same about Ice Ice Baby. Psy didn’t invented K-pop with this track but it’s the song bringing K-pop to the world stage.
I don't think Gangnam Style is a good representation of kpop either. There's obviously all kinds of music coming out of Korea that's not "kpop". I think what Beats is trying to say might be summed up with this: http://spongelianasquareboobs.tumblr.co ... -a-history

But Gangnam Style did get me to check out kpop and other music from Korea and I came across this group called UV whose music videos I rather enjoyed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8c1t1QTDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxY_sX3rJ0

I think it's safe to say that Gangnam Style has been woven into the fabric of American pop culture at this point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvVwylGtes

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by volx757 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:26 am

I took a picture of this restaurant near me that has a gangam style hamburger, but idk how to send it from my phone to the Internet. Just take comfort in the knowledge that it exists lol

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by chaibuka » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:48 am

beats me wrote:Getting excited about Gangnam Style bringing K-pop to the world stage would be like getting excited in 1990 for Ice Ice Baby introducing rap music to the masses. :x
Isn't kitsch a big part of the pop and rock formula.
First thing came to my mind was Falco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GmkjnL4EYw

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by beats me » Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:43 pm

humnumb wrote:
beats me wrote:Saying Gangnam Style is a good representation and intro to K-pop would be like saying the same about Ice Ice Baby. Psy didn’t invented K-pop with this track but it’s the song bringing K-pop to the world stage.
I don't think Gangnam Style is a good representation of kpop either. There's obviously all kinds of music coming out of Korea that's not "kpop". I think what Beats is trying to say might be summed up with this: http://spongelianasquareboobs.tumblr.co ... -a-history

But Gangnam Style did get me to check out kpop and other music from Korea and I came across this group called UV whose music videos I rather enjoyed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8c1t1QTDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxY_sX3rJ0

I think it's safe to say that Gangnam Style has been woven into the fabric of American pop culture at this point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSvVwylGtes

I agree with you agreeing with me and being a little less abrasive than my style. :P

I saw that marching band version a couple days ago and it has to be the worst thing I've heard EVER. I thought marching bands would never attempt a Skrillex song but after seeing this all bets are off. :x

Interesting examples of K-pop you posted, decidedly 80’s. Some of the examples I liked were a little more boy bands of the 90’s and Britney Spears. Being completely lazy on researching it, it seems K-pop covers any Western Pop style of the last 4 decades.

And I guess we can at least thank Psy for inspiring us to explore the genre further. If it was all Gangnam Style clones I would vomit, but also would not be surprised since this is the region of the world that is still obsessed with 8-bit video games. And damnit, don’t tell me that’s just the Japanese. :x

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by delicioso » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:13 pm

volx757 wrote:I took a picture of this restaurant near me that has a gangam style hamburger, but idk how to send it from my phone to the Internet. Just take comfort in the knowledge that it exists lol
Yeah, I'm sure it's not the only one:

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This one is apparently a spoof: http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/n3c4 ... SHAKER.jpg

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by simmerdown » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:27 pm

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/15/161147846/k-pops-new-king

8 min interview

ok, he's a cool guy....still that song is g a r b a g e

PSY Finds His Success With 'Gangnam Style' Unreal
by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SEOUL, South Korea September 25, 2012, 07:59 am ET
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korean rapper PSY finds his success with "Gangnam Style" so unreal that he wonders if he's being tricked into believing it — like Jim Carrey in "The Truman Show."

PSY said Tuesday in a press conference in Seoul that he cried in disbelief when his song entered the Billboard 100 earlier this month. The 34-year-old now says he'll go topless in joy on a stage if "Gangnam Style" tops the chart. The song's at number 11 this week.

The music video for "Gangnam Style" has more than 270 million YouTube views and counting. People around the world are mimicking PSY's horse-riding dance in the video.

THE GUY:

More mainstream K-Pop performers, already famous in South Korea and across Asia, have tried and failed to crack the American market.

So how did PSY — aka Park Jae-sang — a stocky, 34-year-old rapper who was fined nearly $4,500 for smoking marijuana after his 2001 debut, get to be the one teaching Britney Spears how to do the horse-riding dance on American TV?

"I'm not handsome, I'm not tall, I'm not muscular, I'm not skinny," PSY recently said on the American "Today" TV show. "But I'm sitting here."

He attributed his success to "soul or attitude."

PSY, whose stage name stems from the first three letters of the word psycho, has always styled himself as a quirky outsider. But he is from a wealthy family and was actually raised and educated south of the Han River, near Gangnam.

He's an excellent dancer, a confident rapper and he's funny, but another reason for his breakthrough could be that less-than-polished image, said Jae-Ha Kim, a Chicago Tribune pop culture columnist and former music critic.

South Korean music has scored big in Asia with bands featuring handsome, stylish, makeup-wearing young men, including Super Junior and Boyfriend. But seeing such singers "makes some Americans nervous," Kim said.

"People in America are comfortable with Asian guys who look like Jackie Chan and Jet Li, who are good-looking, but they're not the equivalent of Brad Pitt or Keanu Reeves," Kim said.

Part of the initial interest in "Gangnam Style," Kim said, was a kind of "freak-show mentality, where people are like, 'This guy is funny.' But then you look at his choreography and you realize that you really have to know how to dance to do what he does. He's really good."

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by beats me » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:50 pm

simmerdown wrote:http://www.npr.org/2012/09/15/161147846/k-pops-new-king

8 min interview

ok, he's a cool guy....still that song is g a r b a g e

PSY Finds His Success With 'Gangnam Style' Unreal
by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SEOUL, South Korea September 25, 2012, 07:59 am ET
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korean rapper PSY finds his success with "Gangnam Style" so unreal that he wonders if he's being tricked into believing it — like Jim Carrey in "The Truman Show."

PSY said Tuesday in a press conference in Seoul that he cried in disbelief when his song entered the Billboard 100 earlier this month. The 34-year-old now says he'll go topless in joy on a stage if "Gangnam Style" tops the chart. The song's at number 11 this week.

The music video for "Gangnam Style" has more than 270 million YouTube views and counting. People around the world are mimicking PSY's horse-riding dance in the video.

THE GUY:

More mainstream K-Pop performers, already famous in South Korea and across Asia, have tried and failed to crack the American market.

So how did PSY — aka Park Jae-sang — a stocky, 34-year-old rapper who was fined nearly $4,500 for smoking marijuana after his 2001 debut, get to be the one teaching Britney Spears how to do the horse-riding dance on American TV?

"I'm not handsome, I'm not tall, I'm not muscular, I'm not skinny," PSY recently said on the American "Today" TV show. "But I'm sitting here."

He attributed his success to "soul or attitude."

PSY, whose stage name stems from the first three letters of the word psycho, has always styled himself as a quirky outsider. But he is from a wealthy family and was actually raised and educated south of the Han River, near Gangnam.

He's an excellent dancer, a confident rapper and he's funny, but another reason for his breakthrough could be that less-than-polished image, said Jae-Ha Kim, a Chicago Tribune pop culture columnist and former music critic.

South Korean music has scored big in Asia with bands featuring handsome, stylish, makeup-wearing young men, including Super Junior and Boyfriend. But seeing such singers "makes some Americans nervous," Kim said.

"People in America are comfortable with Asian guys who look like Jackie Chan and Jet Li, who are good-looking, but they're not the equivalent of Brad Pitt or Keanu Reeves," Kim said.

Part of the initial interest in "Gangnam Style," Kim said, was a kind of "freak-show mentality, where people are like, 'This guy is funny.' But then you look at his choreography and you realize that you really have to know how to dance to do what he does. He's really good."

One of the 1 star ratings on iTunes said "Did somebody hack iTunes??". Now I'm thinking that might have been posted by Psy himself. :lol:

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by delicioso » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:45 pm

simmerdown wrote:another reason for his breakthrough could be that less-than-polished image, said Jae-Ha Kim, a Chicago Tribune pop culture columnist and former music critic.

South Korean music has scored big in Asia with bands featuring handsome, stylish, makeup-wearing young men, including Super Junior and Boyfriend. But seeing such singers "makes some Americans nervous," Kim said.

"People in America are comfortable with Asian guys who look like Jackie Chan and Jet Li, who are good-looking, but they're not the equivalent of Brad Pitt or Keanu Reeves," Kim said.

Part of the initial interest in "Gangnam Style," Kim said, was a kind of "freak-show mentality, where people are like, 'This guy is funny.' But then you look at his choreography and you realize that you really have to know how to dance to do what he does. He's really good."
This article says pretty much the same thing too: http://www.racialicious.com/2012/09/20/ ... asian-man/

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by Mint Invader » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:00 pm

Its a more fun version of LMFAO... and its in korean. Whats not to like?
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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by humnumb » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:24 pm

beats me wrote:Interesting examples of K-pop you posted, decidedly 80’s. Some of the examples I liked were a little more boy bands of the 90’s and Britney Spears. Being completely lazy on researching it, it seems K-pop covers any Western Pop style of the last 4 decades.
I think "kpop", rather than being mere "covers" of western pop styles, is more of a hybrid fusion style that pays homage to the various western pop influences yet still infusing it with enough Korean sensibilities and cultural references that ends up being its own thing. In the case of UV, they're obviously paying tribute to and at the same time make fun of the 80's western culture they grew up with as well as poking fun at themselves and their own culture at the same time.

I'm more surprised to find out that there was music like this coming out of Korea in 1979: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0lt7yZazMQ
and that there are bands like this coming out of there today, which I find to be far more musically interesting than your typical kpop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSv0rxbduM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfDd9k3naOc (video even hints at likely obsession with 8-bit video games)

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by LoopStationZebra » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:29 pm

I just think it's cool that a non-white, non-black, non-WESTERNER has fucking broke out into the mainstream in a big way.

Fucking cool.

Bravo.

More Please.

:x
I came for the :lol:
But stayed for the :x

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by beats me » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:39 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:I just think it's cool that a non-white, non-black, non-WESTERNER has fucking broke out into the mainstream in a big way.

Fucking cool.

Bravo.

More Please.

:x

Don’t forget Columbia’s Shikara based economy, and those fuckers don’t have tech to fall back on either. :x

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by volx757 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:33 pm

too much of this face here: :x
LoopStationZebra wrote:I just think it's cool that a non-white, non-black, non-WESTERNER has fucking broke out into the mainstream in a big way.

Fucking cool.

Bravo.

More Please.

:x
this was my point with the OP. A Korean pop star that no one ever heard of until recently is now on top of the world. K-Pop has been around for a lot longer than most Westerners know, and this phenomenon has probably opened millions of people up to a new culture/style of music.

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by simmerdown » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:50 pm

...a new culture/style of music.
where is the 'new' part...seems to be western pop, overdubbed, and regurgitated back to us...if it were a representation of actual K-culture, i daresay the pop world would want nothing to do with it

even the female stereotypes, the materialist bs...thats stolen/borrowed, not new...cliche' to the max yo

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Re: GANGNAM STYLE

Post by volx757 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:37 pm

simmerdown wrote:
...a new culture/style of music.
where is the 'new' part...seems to be western pop, overdubbed, and regurgitated back to us...if it were a representation of actual K-culture, i daresay the pop world would want nothing to do with it

even the female stereotypes, the materialist bs...thats stolen/borrowed, not new...cliche' to the max yo

You misunderstand me. Most westerners didn't know k-pop existed. Now, they can explore the entire genre, maybe even other Korean music, who knows!

even though it has been stated numerous times in this thread, I'll say it again just to clarify for you.
GANGNAM STYLE IS A PARODY. Don't take it so literally.

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