Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by gavspav » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:06 pm

I spent quite alot of time playing with this stuff and I ended up with something workable for my needs though I eventually ditched Ms Pinky for a couple of dj hero controllers. (It was for an installation and I thought needles were too fragile).

There's a load of posts on the max forum about overdub loopers and the relative merits of index/poke/wave/groove etc.
If you tie the record to phasors synced to Live's transport you may be able to get around the latency issue.
If you use ipoke you can even do varispeed recording.

There is alot of info out there!

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by JuanSOLO » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:17 pm

cool, THANKS!

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by JuanSOLO » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:19 pm

I think I made some progress on Live Looping with Ms Pink decks. Although it might seem redundant compared to my earlier posts, and the advice that was given, nevertheless it was working well for me last night, but it needs more testing, and I need advice on how to make this as smooth as possible.

3 patches, simple to set up if you want to try it out.
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download them here.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1399581/PinkyPatches.zip

1. Put the "PinkLooper" device on a return track.

2. Put "LOOP Deck A" and "LOOP Deck B" devices on 2 different Tracks, and route your Pinky Vinyl audio into these Devices. These Devices use the mptcfs object to scrub a groove~ thats connected to 2 different buffers, one for each deck inside the "PinkLooper" device.

NOW Anything you route to that Return Track can be recorded in 1 - 8 bar looping fashion, quantized to Live, by pushing the "REC" button on either the "LOOP DECK A" or "LOOP DECK B"

A note on routing: On my Return Track where I put the "PinkLooper" device I set the Audio To > Sends Only and I dont turn up any send knobs. This way you only hear the Audio of what your playing until the loop is recorded. Once the Loop is recorded, the Pinky Vinyl will play it if the vinyl is spinning.

Think of the "REC" button like the Global Clip Launch quantize set on 2Bars.
The record start is quantized to the 1st downbeat every 2 bars. This means when you press record, recording will not start until the very beginning of the next 2 bars. I tend to work in 2 bar loops, so I hard coded it this way. When I am playing a synth loop, or something I want to record, I want to give myself a loose amount of time to hit record and everything to start in sync. I will probably add some flexibility to this, offering 1bar or less rec sync, maybe attach it to be set by the Clip Launch Quantization.

Eventually I will make it "FREE" of sync recording, allowing to user to record un-quantized loops by pressing record on and off. I will probably add some kind of overdub in the future too. Right now the goal is to keep it REALLY SIMPLE and working great.



Any tips on how to patch things better or any ideas about what works well during performance is welcomed.


THANKS!

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by Mudo » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:29 pm

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Cool Work mate!

I need to check your work, get clear my ideas and then put suggestions but as far as I can see/understand... you are in the right path with audio buffering capture like "remix decks"

I have some nice ideas to transform this "simple" (and so great work friend) into the true Remix decks/The Bridge for Ms. Pinky.

Are you interested on these ideas?

Thanks once for your efforts.
-m!

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by JuanSOLO » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:49 pm

definitely interested in those ideas.

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by Mudo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:02 pm

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Drop me an email!

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by bosonHavoc » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:35 am

Very interested in this,
any progress been made over the last year?

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by JuanSOLO » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:53 pm

No progress made since earlier posts, except that a few weeks ago Ms Pinky got updated to work with Live 9
64 bit on OSX.

If you pm me your email i'll send you my latest patching effort.

I think I'm throwing on the towel on the ol Live 9/laptop shennanegans.

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by bosonHavoc » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:11 pm

right on thanks,

i'll probably slowly tinker with this over time

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Re: Ms Pinky & Live looping to spinning decks...looking for help

Post by JuanSOLO » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:30 pm

bosonHavoc wrote:right on thanks,

i'll probably slowly tinker with this over time

It's like that.
I've been meaning to dig back in, make some vertical wave forms etc.
However after getting a Tempest and a few moogerfoogers I've gotten distracted

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