Push means APC40 is redundant right?

[ttilberg]

They are different products with different prices! Go forth and review!

In fact, you should do a feature that compares all of their Ableton products at once: APC 20, 40, Push.

The Push, by far, is not for everyone!

[simmerdown]

... so I dunno what to think/do now.

start slow

first, try: your ass vs. a hole in the ground, its clear you don't know the difference

[cpyatak]

I like that the general consensus is that the APC 40 is not made obsolete by Push. I like sliders too. I also just got the APC after pining for one for a couple years. Pretty psyched about 9 too -- hopefully there'll be no problems using the APC 40 as a step sequencer with 9.

I've looked around a bit -- anyone seen any OS requirements for Live 9?

Chris

[Dragonbreath]

Everyone keeps comparing the push to the apc40, I dont see much resemblance except there dedicated ableton controller and made by Akai.

As much as I find the push super interesting and would like to get one at some point (probably not on launch) I can never imagine it replacing the apc40. No faders its the big one for me. I use them alot of mixdown.

For me Push is a hybrid bettewn machine and launch pad.
Those 2 are gonna suffer alot from the release of push

[sporkles]

i'll buy anyone's apc40 ,

i wont consider a push for a while until the price is less than 300 or so.

the push doesn't seem like it would improve my workflow, but make it slower, then i'd learn it, then something else will come out. its the cycle of controllers. promised workflow, but hours spent learning that workflow (or code) instead of making music.

everyones so giddy about these announcements. I think its funny cause the shit probably wont come out until next summer.

Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather

[OzWozEre]

QuNeo looks like something you would get for free with a magazine.

[Valyo]

I also feel Push is a big blast for the APC. For me the biggest advantages are 1) the colored pads on Push - I get really confused when I have more than 15 clips visible on the session grid
2) velocity sensitive pads
I am still not really seeing myself replacing my normal workflow for production, mostly because I kind of build a lot of my sounds from scratch, as opposed to flicking through presets. But who knows, maybe I try something else in the future.
But for performance it seems to me as close as it gets to my idea of perfect controller. Maybe some monome-like functionalities would have been nice.

[aioffermann]

i'll buy anyone's apc40 ,

i wont consider a push for a while until the price is less than 300 or so.

the push doesn't seem like it would improve my workflow, but make it slower, then i'd learn it, then something else will come out. its the cycle of controllers. promised workflow, but hours spent learning that workflow (or code) instead of making music.

everyones so giddy about these announcements. I think its funny cause the shit probably wont come out until next summer.

Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather

Haha whaaaaaat duuuuuuude?!? Trippy. I don't understand but I like it

[delicioso]

i'll buy anyone's apc40 ,

i wont consider a push for a while until the price is less than 300 or so.

the push doesn't seem like it would improve my workflow, but make it slower, then i'd learn it, then something else will come out. its the cycle of controllers. promised workflow, but hours spent learning that workflow (or code) instead of making music.

everyones so giddy about these announcements. I think its funny cause the shit probably wont come out until next summer.

Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather

Haha whaaaaaat duuuuuuude?!? Trippy. I don't understand but I like it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA

[condra]

QuNeo looks like something you would get for free with a magazine.

LMAO... Spilled coffee...

That's going in my sig

[condra]

APC still amazing for DJ'ing

[OzWozEre]

QuNeo looks like something you would get for free with a magazine.

LMAO... Spilled coffee...

That's going in my sig

YAY! I WIN!

*forum hug*

[ttilberg]

QuNeo looks like something you would get for free with a magazine.

LMAO... Spilled coffee...

That's going in my sig

YAY! I WIN!

*forum hug*

Yeah, it was pretty good

[LeifonMars]

I'm constantly adjusting faders of my APC while I perform, so no Push. I can't be bothered to learn new methods while I'm perfectly comfortable with APC.

[beatmunga]

APC40 is great for DJing, aspecially with a couple of extra controllers each side for global, track independent mappings (deck filters, beat repeats etc). I find Akai LPD8s good for this - same colour scheme too!

One big problem with the APC though - if you only use 2 virtual 'decks', why can't we have the first 4 tracks of the APC all showing 20 clips of 'left deck 1', with the last 4 doing the same for 'right deck'? Only being able to see 5 clips at once is a real pain if you like chopping up your dj tines into smaller chunks for live dj edits - you need to be able to see all clips available without scrolling!

Wish I was clever enough to learn Max programming...

Be great if a big brother of the Push came out with a crossfader and sliders eventually.