wtf? plug-in window handling, especially on Mac.

tomax · Post by **tomax** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:43 am

ok, so please correct me if i am wrong or missing something:
(on Mac 5b17)

1. plug-in windows can only be "floating" (i.e. you have to close them to see the Live window)

2. to type text (with shift-click Plug Edit button), now displays the generic plug params, which are A. too many to be displayed in that vertical column and B. useless when you need to type text into the bloody plug GUI!!!)

3. there is no way to keep plug-in windows displayed when switching back to desktop? Live always hides them, and no preference to change this, as far as i can see. (many plugs these days allow(*require* for some functions) to drag files from Finder onto the plug-in.

this is extra double plus ungood - confirm/deny? thanks for any info!

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:40 am

open up preferences before you go on a tantrum.

tomax · Post by **tomax** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:00 am

hi asshat, you are supremely unhelpful and rude to boot. there are no solutions to any of the 3 issues above in the prefs. anyone with a real solution please post some detail, thanks. otherwise this is an advisement to Ableton - i'd appreciate some support here, unless everyone thinks this behaviour is just lovely...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:21 am

tomax wrote:hi asshat, you are supremely unhelpful and rude to boot. there are no solutions to any of the 3 issues above in the prefs. anyone with a real solution please post some detail, thanks. otherwise this is an advisement to Ableton - i'd appreciate some support here, unless everyone thinks this behaviour is just lovely...

Like i said before. open up preferences in Live
You have the option to turn on/off
- multiple plugin windows
- auto-hide plugins
- auto open plugins

About nr2. i havent seen a single plugin with text-input so i cant help you there.

zion15 · Post by **zion15** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:34 am

the plugin windows are indeed floating and you can't do anything to it no matter how you tinker preferences. and because of how the operating system handles floating childs (i think), they'll go hidden when the application loses focus.

"auto hide" is on a track-basis which means that when you change the active track in live, it hides the plugin windows that were open on another track. it isn't related to how the windows are hidden/shown when the application focus goes away.

i personally haven't had any problems with the way live handles the plugin windows (although i agree that point 2 is a crude workaround, i haven't just run to it myself) but the point is that to my knowledge there isn't anything you can do to it before the abes do something to it in their code.