Tech House Kick

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Serinho
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Tech House Kick

Post by Serinho » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:26 pm

wich type kick and what effects I need to use to make similary kick like in this song m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=hr&client=mv-google&v=TTtCzcV37q0

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by funktion9 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:44 pm

sample it :p

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by beatmunga » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:15 pm

It's a 909 style but could be a sample of a sample of a sample layered with some other samples of samples as has already been said.

Just sample it from the intro, crop it to about half a beat in length at the most, and use a quick decay envelope filter on low pass to keep it bright for the first vital few milliseconds of punch, but getting rid of the hi hats which happen very soon after (leaving the nice sub bass only for the decay).

If all that was like a foreign language, apologies - get a nice sample pack instead!
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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by d.reamonn » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:44 pm

Operator + Compressor + Saturator + Redux + Reverb.

I could tell you more, but then I'd have to listen to the sample.

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by synnack » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:57 pm

funktion9 wrote:sample it :p
Sampling kicks of already produced tracks doesn't always work out very well. Often what you're sampling is already compressed a ton. When you go to master, you'd have to leave the low end alone to keep from overcopmressing that sampled kick to the point of destroying it, which then means no other bass sound gets properly compressed. It's possible to do this (sidechaining helps) but often sampled kicks end up sounding like shit when they are mastered a second time.
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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by Serinho » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:01 pm

funktion9 wrote:sample it :p
How ?

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by d.reamonn » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:03 pm

Serinho wrote:
funktion9 wrote:sample it :p
How ?
Soundflower.

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by Serinho » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:20 pm

d.reamonn wrote:
Serinho wrote:
funktion9 wrote:sample it :p
How ?
Soundflower.
only for mac

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by d.reamonn » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Serinho wrote: only for mac
Mac/Soundflower. Because real musicians can't make music on PCs.

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by synnack » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:39 pm

d.reamonn wrote:
Serinho wrote: only for mac
Mac/Soundflower. Because real musicians can't make music on PCs.
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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by beatmunga » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Serinho wrote:
funktion9 wrote:sample it :p
How ?
Take a cheap mini jack lead out of any device capable of playing YouTube and plug the other end into your computer.

The link you gave is HQ YouTube. Should be fine.
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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by pencilrocket » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:53 am

make yourself. click + noise + pitch down sine wave

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by beatmunga » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:19 am

pencilrocket wrote:make yourself. click + noise + pitch down sine wave
Thing is, though a lot of the more minimal tech House has simple clean kicks like you correctly describe, the example given is almost more like a rounded Masters at Work or Todd Terry style kick found in funkier House beats.

It sits somewhere between the clean synth kick and the crusty old skool sample - which is probably why it is particularly nice.

If it is just synthesis, hats off to the programmer from this complete drum synthesis dork!
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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by aquashack » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:10 pm

If you want to try your hand at synthesising a kick, I've found EKS Pro by Synapse to be pretty handy http://www.synapse-audio.com/ekspro.html - think it costs $39 which is quite reasonable. It's designed purely to make kick drums. A lot of people will layer a real sample for some top end but for tech tracks and the like the synthetic style is usually all you need.
There's a free trial available on the site.

I've also used the free "Dirty Panda CM edition" (given away free with Computer Music magazine). It's a slightly simpler approach but might well be all you need.

(edited for typos)

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Re: Tech House Kick

Post by MPGK » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:32 pm

Hello,

Applying some gentle saturation and a bit of pitch and volume envelope to a clean 909 kick sample yields pretty similar results.

The question how to get that kick to sit in the mix like this is much more interesting, though.
After all, the kick does work well in this track - but in a different track, it might sound out of place. In the end, it all depends on how well the separate elements work together.

Cheers,
Moritz

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