EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

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otaylor003
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EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by otaylor003 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:18 am

Hi there,

I have a question relating to the midi routing on Ableton when using Toontrack's EZ Player pro. Essentially I'm looking so set up a midi track which only receives midi data from a certain midi channel on another Ableton track as discussed below.

I can get EZ player pro to work easily enough (by putting it on a midi track, say track 2), then putting Superior Drummer on a separate midi track (say track 3). I would then select the midi input on track 3 as being from 2-Ez Player in the first input box and the "Ez Player" on the second input box. This means that the output of EZ Player is fed to Superior Drummer and the sounds work from SD no problem.

However, I'm struggling to use the EZP feature which sends different drums to different midi tracks. EG if I created another midi track (say track 4) with Battery 3, I was then trying to send the EZP kick drums to SD (on track 3) and the snares to Battery (on track 4). This can be done on EZP by selecting different midi channels for the snare and kick - but I cannot get it to work on Ableton. When setting the midi input for SD I cannot see how to only receive data from a certain midi channel - I can only set it to receive all midi data or none at all.

It appears you can set up a midi track to only receive certain midi channels when using an external source - but I cannot find how to do it for an internal source.

I've googled this problem and found nothing at all - so can anyone help with this?

Thanks,

Owen.

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Re: EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by WAJO » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:23 am

Hi Owen,

I realize it's been quite a while since you posted your last question. Unfortunately, I am totally new to EZPlayer Pro (just bought it today) and I will not be able to help you. However, I was hoping I could get some help from you instead.

You write in your post that you have been able to get EZPlayer to work fine with Superior Drummer running in Ableton Live (v 8.2.2). For some reason I cannot get it to work at all. There is no midi signal going out of EZPlayer to trigger my drum sampler (I am using EZDrummer (not Superior) but it should work similar).

I have tried to set up the routing according to the EZP user manual but nothing happens. I have also read your post below and am trying to do the same setup. However, I do not understand exactly what you mean when you say that you "select the input on track 3 as being from 2-Ez Player in the first input box AND the "Ez Player" on the second input box"? I do not see such an option for the second input box, I only have Pre FX or Post FX as options? My EZD track is record armed so it is not that. Also, I can drag midi files from within EZP onto the EZP track in Ableton and then it actually works, BUT, it does not work when I am trying to preview midi files from within EZP itself. The midi mapping inside EZP is set to EZD.

Any idea what might be wrong? I have looked everywhere for guidance without being able to find any relevant information. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Johan

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Re: EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by otaylor003 » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:13 pm

Hi Johan,

I rarely look at this forum but saw your post today so I'll try to help as best I can. To get EZ Player and EZ Drummer working I would:

Create a new midi track - so you have a midi track on track 2 and track 3. Drag EZ Player onto Track 2, and EZ Drummer onto Track 3.

On Track 3, the "Midi From" section should have 2 boxes which will read "All Ins" and "All Channels". On the "All Ins" box, select the bottom option "2-EZPlayer". The second box will change to "Post FX" so select this box and you should have 3 choices - "Pre FX" "Post FX" and "EZplayer". Select "EZplayer". Then arm track 3.

Now goto track 2 and play a groove in EZ Player. You should hear the sounds playing in track 3 - as if you've dragged a midi grove onto track 3 (you don't need to adjust anything at all on track 2).

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Owen.

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Re: EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by WAJO » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:32 pm

Hi again Owen,

I have done exactly as you advised, however, for some reason I do not get three options in the Post FX box. I only get two, Post FX and Pre FX, and there is no EZPlayer option. Not sure what other set ups I need to do make that happen, but whatever it is that seems to be what is causing my problem. My search continues...

Thanks a lot for trying to help.

Best regards,
Johan

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Re: EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by otaylor003 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:27 am

Hi Johan,

That doesn't sound good and I can sympathise with the lack of help which appears to be out there - have you tried reinstalling EZ Player at all as that might help?

Good luck and hope you manage to fix it soon.

Cheers

Owen.

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Re: EZ Player pro - outputting drums to different midi tracks??

Post by rmacgregor » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:30 am

Johan, I may have the answer to this one. If you are on a Mac you must use the VST version of the plugin not the AU.

WAJO wrote:Hi Owen,

I realize it's been quite a while since you posted your last question. Unfortunately, I am totally new to EZPlayer Pro (just bought it today) and I will not be able to help you. However, I was hoping I could get some help from you instead.

You write in your post that you have been able to get EZPlayer to work fine with Superior Drummer running in Ableton Live (v 8.2.2). For some reason I cannot get it to work at all. There is no midi signal going out of EZPlayer to trigger my drum sampler (I am using EZDrummer (not Superior) but it should work similar).

I have tried to set up the routing according to the EZP user manual but nothing happens. I have also read your post below and am trying to do the same setup. However, I do not understand exactly what you mean when you say that you "select the input on track 3 as being from 2-Ez Player in the first input box AND the "Ez Player" on the second input box"? I do not see such an option for the second input box, I only have Pre FX or Post FX as options? My EZD track is record armed so it is not that. Also, I can drag midi files from within EZP onto the EZP track in Ableton and then it actually works, BUT, it does not work when I am trying to preview midi files from within EZP itself. The midi mapping inside EZP is set to EZD.

Any idea what might be wrong? I have looked everywhere for guidance without being able to find any relevant information. Any help would be highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Johan
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