Please Vote: Live for DJ vs Live for Composition

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Live Producer? Live DJ?

Live, for me, is so far a really cool compositional tool
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66%
Live has been, and will continue to be, the core engine in my truly live performances
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34%
 
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Please Vote: Live for DJ vs Live for Composition

Post by anonymouse » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:33 am

As advanced as Live has become, and as many polls this forum has had, this is a really basic poll. But ... still, I am very curious as to whether there really are that many people using Live in realtime, on stage - or is it just their hyperflexible sketchpad for composition?

I am finding Live to be the killer piece of software for me in composing new music. Total freedom to throw random things together, with no hassle, and travel the journey to build a new track. Live 5, when I get used to it, will be amazing, I have no doubt.

If I ever DJ again, which I hope I do, I plan to use Live to create things weeks in advance, and then probably Traktor for the actual gig.

I'd love to know how seasoned Live users feel about this. I love it for composition, but just have no need for its complexity in a performance situation.

I'm very interested to see the voting, as to whether people are really playing Live live or just enjoying its flexibility for studio composition. (basically I want to satisfy myself that it is widely used as a composer's tool, and only a few ballsy extroverts are actually using it live)

Deliberately there are only two options in this poll. Just vote for whatever you feel closest to, even if you use it for both.

cheers.

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Post by Machinate » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:11 am

I voted "my truly live performances", but that has absolutely nothing to do with djing, imo.
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Post by robtronik » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:00 pm

in my mind, the two should not be segregated. It is the very genius of the app that it tries to merge the possibilities together.

To segment the two approaches to composition and performance would undermine why it is such an amazing, standout application.

And I would further posit that those that want to segment out the two "approaches" don't really get what Live's potential is.

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Post by hambone1 » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:07 pm

I agree. I can't separate the two.

For me, creating in the studio is directly linked to live performance, as that is my only intent when creating in the studio. They're a direct extension of each other. What I create in the studio is for live performance, so it only makes sense to use one piece of software to do both.

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Post by anonymouse » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:30 pm

Machinate wrote:I voted "my truly live performances", but that has absolutely nothing to do with djing, imo.
ha, you're right - I meant DJing in the sense of you are in a booth/on a stage doing something that is making sound come out of the PA system ;)

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Post by ishimaru » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:56 pm

Should have put a button for Both Uses. Seriously I recently used good ol' Live at a wedding during the day and a loft party at night. Then when i got home busted down some loops and started making some music. I intended to use Live for just making music. I saw what people can do with it DJing so I went for it. I kill any traditional DJ out there :wink:. I still have my technics and I love DJing that way but when I got Live 5 .... at least one of those tables is going on Ebay/Craigslist eventually.
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Post by Jonsama » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:01 am

I'm really interested in using live in a live setting, but at this stage I just dont trust its stability enough. After about a half hour our so of working with live at home for production, It starts to act up in funny ways, and if that happened during a set I would be assed out. I love live though as a production tool.

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Post by Komplex » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:38 am

I use it to compose and produce music with the idea of flippin it around and using it for its playback abilities too... so if the poll had the [BOTH] option, I'd add my vote to it.

As far as stability goes, you should ALWAYS try and streamline the performance aspect of it. In the studio you can put your labcoat on (or robe in my case) and get freaky without worrying about things going weird but playing out you want to be sure everything goes right, you can jam on it and it won't crash. When you eliminate things that can stuff up it becomes stable.

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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:44 am

I've been using Live as a composition tool since I got into it over a year ago...

But I'm in the process right now of picking out a laptop and a controller because in August I'm doing two shows, one playing Ableton in a band and another gig where it's just me on stage and I can do as I please... I'm probably blend original music and a bit of DJing with Live 5.

So therefore I did not vote.

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Post by anonymouse » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:54 am

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I've been using Live as a composition tool since I got into it over a year ago...

But I'm in the process right now of picking out a laptop and a controller because in August I'm doing two shows, one playing Ableton in a band and another gig where it's just me on stage and I can do as I please... I'm probably blend original music and a bit of DJing with Live 5.

So therefore I did not vote.
yeah, I am moving in that direction too. Probably it has been good to get to know Live really well in a studio set-up before taking it out on stage. Though Live 5 brings in so much new functionality, I might have to delay the performance part and continue with Traktoring premade tracks/mashes.

It seems that Live performance is the tip of the iceberg; you'll spend 5/6 of the time preparing your loops and planning your set.

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Post by divonic » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:57 pm

Lets see I use Live to compose music from vsts, external synths and drum modules that live controls, and from drum machines and synths that are synched to live.

I plan on using Live on stage when we preform our songs with the sounds from the external synths and drum modules recorded as audio. (that's one less rack I'll have to take with me.) with my drum machines and synths (that have internal sequencers) synched to live.

I guess the reason that I like the idea of performing with live is that I never want to perform a song exactally the same way twice. live's ability to improvise and add makes it the perfect tool for live performances.

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