NI Komplete 9 is coming...

[ezelkow1]

I love the fact that Monark is being sold as a Reaktor ensemble! seriously.


It's my understanding that even though it is another Moog clone, it is one made with some of those fancy zero delay feedback filters I keep hearing about.

So NI is going to give me some of that sweet Moog filter action in an ensemble I can open up and play with? I'm cool with that.

It depends, some of its modules are locked, so it really depends on what NI feels like letting you use. No one knows yet how far down their locking goes

[3dot...]

monophonic can turn into polyphonic in an instance using Reaktor..so monark is intriguing
CPU wise.. Reaktor is the most efficient I know (on PC)

I'm probably going to hold of another year with the update (K7)..
the things I care about are Reaktor6 and Absynth6..
would've updated if those 2 were out in 1 sec...
Battery4...GR5...Razor... Damage Library...Drum and Organ Libraries and the fx are making me want to update..
I can get the update for pretty cheap probably if I want..
but I don't really need it is what I'm saying...
if it will happen...drunk impulse purchase is probably the way It'll go down

[djadonis206]

With the cost of real hardware analog being cheaper than ever, it's surprising people are still interested in software emulations. After about 3 or 4 $150+ updates, you could've bought a nice hardware synth like the Minitaur. Hell, splurge a little and get an A4. You'll never consider a soft synth again

[djadonis206]

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[3dot...]

With the cost of real hardware analog being cheaper than ever, it's surprising people are still interested in software emulations. After about 3 or 4 $150+ updates, you could've bought a nice hardware synth like the Minitaur. He'll, splurge a little and get an A4. You'll never consider a soft synth again

hardware is hardware and software is software..
Analog isn't digital.. but since it gets recorded to the computer maybe it is...
money is money though..
an instrument is an instrument...
so I've ordered the sub phatty and splurged on the (long awaited) L9 update
K9 couldn't have come at a worst time..

[Slacker4hire]

I love the fact that Monark is being sold as a Reaktor ensemble! seriously.


It's my understanding that even though it is another Moog clone, it is one made with some of those fancy zero delay feedback filters I keep hearing about.

So NI is going to give me some of that sweet Moog filter action in an ensemble I can open up and play with? I'm cool with that.

It depends, some of its modules are locked, so it really depends on what NI feels like letting you use. No one knows yet how far down their locking goes

well, that's just dumb.

[kitekrazy]

With the cost of real hardware analog being cheaper than ever, it's surprising people are still interested in software emulations. After about 3 or 4 $150+ updates, you could've bought a nice hardware synth like the Minitaur. Hell, splurge a little and get an A4. You'll never consider a soft synth again

That's an interesting way of looking at it but hardware can be obsolete when they introduce a new model and they usually don't offer upgrades unless you try to trade them in at a Guitar Center. Then they give you half of what they may be able to sell it.

[Slacker4hire]

I will totally agree that analog sounds different and arguably better, but it's just not convenient. I've swayed back and forth a lot between analog only, plugin based, and various mixed approaches.. and I still don't really know which I prefer.

But I do know that when I want a Juno-y sounding bass, I don't walk over and turn on my actual 106, I load up an instance of luSH. Because it's quick and easy.

[miekwave]

With the cost of real hardware analog being cheaper than ever, it's surprising people are still interested in software emulations. After about 3 or 4 $150+ updates, you could've bought a nice hardware synth like the Minitaur. Hell, splurge a little and get an A4. You'll never consider a soft synth again

I agree, I own hardware for the sheer joy of programming and playing it without using a DAW.

For some reason, when I program analog sounds on software, it's a very boring/unnatural approach, also the tones I end up creating are very dull compare dthe tones I make on my hardware (in the same time frame).

However when I use my synthesizers and make patches, they spring to life... really fast.

I also noticed that the quality of Preset Patches on Hardware are vastly superiour to software Preset Patches. I sometimes wonder why there are more than 30 pad variations for Analog. This might be because the Hardware integrates its own controller functions into their patches. For example, I love playing Korg patches that have Aftertouch/PB/Wheel/Velocity/Ribbon/Joystick and Switch controls, its very expressive, especially "guitar riff" and "lfo heavy" type patches. Software patches lack this kind of depth and is limited mostly to generic Velocity, Mod-wheel and Knob based controls.

Also, Midi Controllers on the market today are do match the quality and keep of Yamaha or Korg or Virus keyboards, etc.

The only useful software instruments for me really are Orchestral Libraries and soundtrack specific sounds.

[Machinesworking]

Reaktor is the most efficient I know (on PC)

It's not efficient, it's just that 99% of the modules etc. created for it are single purpose.
The question was asked why Massive wasn't done in a Reaktor ensemble and the answer was because it would have been twice as processor hungry as it is.
It's always more efficient CPU wise to build without using a high level building block tool like Reaktor.

^^^ With that in mind I bet you can't open up the new plug in simply because they've streamlined it internally a bit...

[beats me]

You can’t compare a hardware synth to Komplete, maybe an individual plug-in but not the entire package. For me the financials make more sense for an upgrade to Komplete 9 than Live 9. I’d say both my current versions of Komplete and Live have 90% of what the new versions offer.

Komplete 9 (from 5) upgrade: $150
Live 9 Suite (from 8 Suite) upgrade: $300

Actually considering I’d be going from Komplete 5 to 9 there probably is a lot more added to that than Live 8 to 9, and for half the price.

[v00d00ppl]

With the cost of real hardware analog being cheaper than ever, it's surprising people are still interested in software emulations. After about 3 or 4 $150+ updates, you could've bought a nice hardware synth like the Minitaur. Hell, splurge a little and get an A4. You'll never consider a soft synth again

I agree, I own hardware for the sheer joy of programming and playing it without using a DAW.

For some reason, when I program analog sounds on software, it's a very boring/unnatural approach, also the tones I end up creating are very dull compare dthe tones I make on my hardware (in the same time frame).

However when I use my synthesizers and make patches, they spring to life... really fast.

I also noticed that the quality of Preset Patches on Hardware are vastly superiour to software Preset Patches. I sometimes wonder why there are more than 30 pad variations for Analog. This might be because the Hardware integrates its own controller functions into their patches. For example, I love playing Korg patches that have Aftertouch/PB/Wheel/Velocity/Ribbon/Joystick and Switch controls, its very expressive, especially "guitar riff" and "lfo heavy" type patches. Software patches lack this kind of depth and is limited mostly to generic Velocity, Mod-wheel and Knob based controls.

Also, Midi Controllers on the market today are do match the quality and keep of Yamaha or Korg or Virus keyboards, etc.

The only useful software instruments for me really are Orchestral Libraries and soundtrack specific sounds.

Programming anything without staring at the blue of a large
LCD / LED screen is more fun. I'm talking about the blue/ hyper white color. I think the fun factor comes from the limitations of the hardware (voices/ output volume/ sampling time/ encoders going to shite/ etc). It's the feeling that you are stuck with these restrictions and you have to overcome it. On a computer synth / sampler you have too many options and the crappy response of rotary knobs of your midi controller. A few things I do to make it more interesting is use my mouse to fine tune my presets and save my settings as my static golden patch then if I want to do live performance I use the knobs. I've learned to use the mouse as a single mor accurate value of programming my go to commands.

Also for long programming sessions in front of my computer screen, I use Gunnar amber glasses to stay on the screen longer.