I want to f**k up loops

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Airbase
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I want to f**k up loops

Post by Airbase » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:16 pm

I'm getting bored with using loops in their original form. Is there some juicy tool to just totally screw up loops? I checked BeatFX (that Reaktor thingy), and it looked sweet, but I just dont get Reaktor.

Any other suggestions on what vsts/others to check out?

// Jezper

P.S. I'm speaking of drum loops
Long Live Live.

PJarrett
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Post by PJarrett » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:19 pm

Try SupaTrigga

http://bram.smartelectronix.com/plugins.php?id=6


It's my all-time favorite plugin.

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Post by jrathkopf » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:22 pm

it depends how you want to fuck them up...i use ableton plugins beatrepeat, ping poéng delay, erosion, anything i can think of and just fuck around... if u mean, like beat slicing, supatrigga can be good, and there is a new beta at smartelectronix of a plug that lookks interesing

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:26 pm

Download this
http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/Modulati ... Sounds.zip

Throw a loop in track 1. Trigger the clips in the other tracks which automate the effects. Check the tutorial in my signature for more info.

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:28 pm

Check out the tread in Tips & Tricks (I think) about using the crossfader with fx, looks a pretty good way to mangle samples. The Ohmforce plugins are pretty extreme, nothing ever sounds the same after using that.

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Post by elemental » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:33 pm

there's a 1000 ways to mess up a loop.

re-arranging:
its up to you, you already have a great tool for that. try Recycle aswell!

processing.
distortion, filtering, waveshaping, phasing ....... blah blah blah

personally I like to drive things through a valve distortion unit, or just gain on an analogue desk.

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Post by adhmzaiusz » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:51 pm

you can also automate the start point of the loop, and detach the envelope and create infinite variations of the same loop in the same clip.

in envelope window make sure in the dropdown for automation clip is selected, then in the next dropdown select sample start. unlink the envelope and you can drag the loop length within that clip to any length you want, and have the automation at a different length than the actual clip.
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Post by PJarrett » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:47 pm

adhmzaiusz wrote:you can also automate the start point of the loop, and detach the envelope and create infinite variations of the same loop in the same clip.

in envelope window make sure in the dropdown for automation clip is selected, then in the next dropdown select sample start. unlink the envelope and you can drag the loop length within that clip to any length you want, and have the automation at a different length than the actual clip.
If you have the clip set to beat mode, you can select the clip and do this same exercise with the "Sample Offset" setting. That's a fun one, too.

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Post by mosca » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:59 pm

Live Cut check that out!

like supatrigga on steroids

mo

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Re: I want to f**k up loops

Post by drush » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:21 pm

Airbase wrote:I'm getting bored with using loops in their original form. Is there some juicy tool to just totally screw up loops?
yes, it's called Ableton --> Clip Envelopes.

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Post by polyslax » Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:35 pm

Lucifer
Heizenbox
Augustus Loop
Filterscape
Nitro
Volcano
Trash
Live Clip Envelopes

Some of my faves.
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Post by Flowbee » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:42 pm

mosca wrote:Live Cut check that out!

like supatrigga on steroids

mo
Thanks for the link!

Live Cut is messing with my mind. I think I've just found my new favorite plug-in.
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Post by djadonis206 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:52 pm

Nothing a LFO and compression can't take care of

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Post by colin_h » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:59 pm

www.gleetchplug.com

mac only for now
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Post by DJ VAKIS » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:05 pm

Just LIVE maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan this is the tool.
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