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devinschumacher
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very strange phenomenon

Post by devinschumacher » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:50 am

Hey guys ---

So I have been working on a track on my headphones (sennheiser HD 25-II) and also on my monitors (krk rokits) and it sounds pretty amazing.... so i bounced it to audio and listened to it on my computer, and now through my normal macbook speakers it sounds incredibly out of tune...

has this happened to anyone, or does anyone know why this might be occurring / how to fix it?

thanks!

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by Mage2k » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:26 am

Did you export at a sample rate other than what your laptop's built-in audio plays at?

QUANCE
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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by QUANCE » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:06 am

No the exporting is fine. Actually
I can clarify. Even in regular ableton playback mode it now sounds out of tune .... Maybe it's the vocals that are just really terribly tuned? Or maybe my headphones and monitors are just really good and masking some of it with loudness? I'm not sure.

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by Tarekith » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:33 am

Turn off warping for that song when you listen to it again in Live. Live automatically warps everything, but in this case you don't want that happening.

devinschumacher
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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by devinschumacher » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:36 pm

tried it - no change..

actually im starting to think the song i sampled these slices from is actually what is out of tune now.... just listening to the original and it sounds kinda weird... the vocals i recoreded over it are kinda out of tune too, so i think the combination of that made it seem really bad -- but i think the problem is two fold.

Im going to have to try to just re-record on my own the riffs that were going on in this song and ditch the sample to fix the issue..

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:22 pm

QUANCE wrote:Or maybe my headphones and monitors are just really good and masking some of it with loudness?
If you weren't able to hear out of tune elements with your monitors, this would mean they really really are ugly shit, not "really good" actually.

BTW, very loud bass content can sound out of tune with small speakers like laptops ones. Try bouncing your tune without.

devinschumacher
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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by devinschumacher » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:33 am

yeah i figured it out... its just an out of tune sounding song.

wow

the song is Sister Sledge - Lost in Music


and during the guitar strumming parts there are piano chords in the background and they just sound so out of tune... never really noticed it in this song until i started trying to sample it.
anyone else hear it?

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by Jack McOck » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:46 pm

Our left and right ears function differently. One is more attuned to picking up melody, the other to distinguishing speech. Hence, if you're using headphones, or if your speakers are placed at too wide an angle, there maybe minor tune issues you'd be unable to detect (I learnt this studying speech therapy).

For my part, I generally use my MacBook speakers or Utilty->Mono as a third reference source when making the final adjustments to my tracks.

Then again I'm tone-deaf.

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by QUANCE » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:12 am

Thanks jack! That's actually very informative ill try that technique

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Re: very strange phenomenon

Post by lo.key » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:34 am

yeah, thats good to know, thanks!

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