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Let's all get mad at the possible government response instead of the people who bombed the place. 
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We’re interrogating a foreign brown guy. That’s comforting.
If this is foreign terrorism then they really shot themselves in the ass, literally and figuratively.
A). If part of it is wanting us to get off their soil, as we're reducing our troop presense nothing says “Wait, don’t go!” like a fresh terrorist attack on our soil.
B). Whatever casualties they inflict on our population we do 1,000 times to theirs.
Short sighted, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised coming from the Facebook “Hey, look what I did!” era.

If this is foreign terrorism then they really shot themselves in the ass, literally and figuratively.
A). If part of it is wanting us to get off their soil, as we're reducing our troop presense nothing says “Wait, don’t go!” like a fresh terrorist attack on our soil.
B). Whatever casualties they inflict on our population we do 1,000 times to theirs.
Short sighted, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised coming from the Facebook “Hey, look what I did!” era.
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It's horrible news.
I hope they catch the perps soon - whether they be 'islamic terrorists' or right wing extremists doesn't really matter.
I hope they catch the perps soon - whether they be 'islamic terrorists' or right wing extremists doesn't really matter.
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thisLoopStationZebra wrote:Well, let's not forget that this incident will also be used to eliminate 50 more freedoms.
Can we say 'hello!' to a new and expanded Patriot Act?
I think we can.
... and MW's point about the military budget = spot on.
i suspect airport security will require us to strip down to our undies and/or bones next.
a fucking 8 year old!
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The Finn wrote:It's horrible news.
I hope they catch the perps soon - whether they be 'islamic terrorists' or right wing extremists doesn't really matter.
I thought Islamic terrorists were right-wing extremists…?
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Yeah it make no sense whatsoever. But you know the scientific method: If something makes no sense at all, and we refuse to consider any alternative hypothesis, then let's all just agree that total nonsense is actually a new form of sense only to be understood and quantified by specially prepared experts, and shut down anyone who says otherwise.beats me wrote:If this is foreign terrorism then they really shot themselves in the ass, literally and figuratively.
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stringtapper wrote:The Finn wrote:It's horrible news.
I hope they catch the perps soon - whether they be 'islamic terrorists' or right wing extremists doesn't really matter.
I thought Islamic terrorists were right-wing extremists…?
Absolutely.
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Religion IMO is it's own category in terms of extremists. Though it could be argued that extremist religious zealots tend to want right wing conservative power structures in terms of religion being a big part of state law, it can't be argued that they all want unbridled capitalism.stringtapper wrote:The Finn wrote:It's horrible news.
I hope they catch the perps soon - whether they be 'islamic terrorists' or right wing extremists doesn't really matter.
I thought Islamic terrorists were right-wing extremists…?
At least in terms of what the right wing means in the USA it's fair to say that only the inclusion of religion in government and a desire for old fashioned moral values are similar to the islamic terrorists, but government structure, free market rules, and the like are far different. That's including our far right extremists. Not many Americans want a full on dictatorship.
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beats me wrote:Let's all get mad at the possible government response instead of the people who bombed the place.
Is it okay to be mad at both? I mean, is there a law against that or anything?
I mean, our fucking MASCOT ^ there should remind us - especially you - that it's not only okay to get pissed at everything but a fundamental God Given Right and Blessing on this forum.
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Yes.
But I think it’s reached a point where the method and message of the terrorists has become tiresome old hat and our response, at least in these discussions, is “Got it. Now let the adults talk.” and the majority of the discussion will be about how the government will either Big Brother or Keystone Cops, or both, the response. The actual act becomes trivial.
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Well, emotional responses are expected from some, but it doesn't mean people not feeling that way are without caring. I am not watching any news or reading about the bombing at all. I'm not. I don't need to. You don't need to. It's "always" the same; "Really great innocent people died at the hands of monster a-holes" Now, as much as bummer that is, death is not the main tragedy.
As mentioned, people die by the tens of thousands every day with many in our own neighborhoods right? The reality is we breed like rats and die like flies. So lets not get all sanctimonious about people dying and the tragedy that it is. Violence is just as inevitable. Death is damn common, often outrageous, and if you're over 50, it's how things are. It doesn't mean i disregard it. I would rather us be better humans. For that i throw a few hundred dollars a year at those in need so I don't have to constantly reconcile my heartfelt outrage against actually doing something. You bet I buy it off! I'm too deeply moved by these things and have relatively few 'brain cycles' for it. Which is why I won't engage in every real human tragedy that's fucking our earballs every day.
Except in this thread with you boneheads.
As mentioned, people die by the tens of thousands every day with many in our own neighborhoods right? The reality is we breed like rats and die like flies. So lets not get all sanctimonious about people dying and the tragedy that it is. Violence is just as inevitable. Death is damn common, often outrageous, and if you're over 50, it's how things are. It doesn't mean i disregard it. I would rather us be better humans. For that i throw a few hundred dollars a year at those in need so I don't have to constantly reconcile my heartfelt outrage against actually doing something. You bet I buy it off! I'm too deeply moved by these things and have relatively few 'brain cycles' for it. Which is why I won't engage in every real human tragedy that's fucking our earballs every day.
Except in this thread with you boneheads.
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We've been bombing people in Afghanistan for over a decade. Hundreds of kids have died.
I'm sad to see anybody hurt, but to act shocked or surprised, or more outraged because this time it was on our soil and "our" 8 year old? sorry, not happening.
Somebody dead doesn't care if you bombed them accidentally to free them, or to make a point, they don't care if it was a lone gunman, an army, a terrorist or an act of god, they're still dead.
I'm sad to see anybody hurt, but to act shocked or surprised, or more outraged because this time it was on our soil and "our" 8 year old? sorry, not happening.
Somebody dead doesn't care if you bombed them accidentally to free them, or to make a point, they don't care if it was a lone gunman, an army, a terrorist or an act of god, they're still dead.
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One of the reasons that i hope it's not a muslim bomber is the inevitable and insanely disproportionate response that's well more deadly.
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well no, the problem is that ultimately it will be someone else's ass... the majority of the people who got punished for 9/11 had nothing to do with it - when the president feels like they have to do something about it then shooting randomly into the night is seen as better than nothing. Hopefully Obama won't be as ham fisted as Bush was.beats me wrote:We’re interrogating a foreign brown guy. That’s comforting.
If this is foreign terrorism then they really shot themselves in the ass, literally and figuratively.
Of course in an ideal world this kind of thing would be dealt with the justice system rather than the military... the point is it's probably just a couple of twisted fucks, and a whole nation might be forced to take the blame with them
