Hey folks,
Anyone have this problem . . . I have been using the Amplitube demo version for a while and everything's great, fun to use. Finally, I plop down the cash for Amplitube and I'm all excited to be able to use it without the white-noise hiss of the demo version. Only problem is that in the first hour of using my fully registered version of Amplitube in Live, my system crashed several times. With just two tracks going, both with their own Amplitube on it, the cpu overloaded to like 500%. Everything stutters, freezes, I panic . . . blah, blah, blah. . . I hurry and shut the computer off before it blows up. I have no idea what the deal is, plenty of memory, hard drive is fine, etc .
Windows XP Home, P4
2.0ghz
80gb
Any help is appreciated.
-c
Amplitube+Live=CRASH!
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Guest
how much RAM? I'm on P4 2.4 g, gig RAM, XP PRo, and have had at least three simulataneous amplitubes on seperate tracks in a set with 8 tracks and lost of effects, no probs. Just did a test with 6 tracks and 6 amplitubes, playing with amplitube settings, turning things on and off,while clips were playing--no problems at all--cpu meter around 20-28. Adding each instance of amplitube instantly cause about 3-4 % raise in cpu meter, but not much if any more on top of that.
Ryan
Ryan
RAM . . . well, I think that's the problem. I've got 512 mb, and for everything I have done to this point it's been fine, even if maybe I have been in denial about my system limits. But it is apparent now that if I want to put a cpu-sucking plug-in like Amplitube on ten tracks (which the plug is cool enough to do), I need more memory. As has been pointed out elsewhere on this forum, "You can't rock the Live shizzle without a 1 gizzleHz of ram, mofo.." (John Johns). Um . . . yes . . . right.
-chad
p.s. ---If the guest reply was from quandry aka ryan, I think that you're resample idea would really help save cpu power for just the kinds of problem I am encountering. If I understand your idea right, you could essentially render on the fly. [/i]
-chad
p.s. ---If the guest reply was from quandry aka ryan, I think that you're resample idea would really help save cpu power for just the kinds of problem I am encountering. If I understand your idea right, you could essentially render on the fly. [/i]
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Guest
I think I was doing alright with 512 RAM (before I got more), Live 2.0.3 and amplitube, but can't remember or do tests to give specifics. I know I had a least 3 instances of amplitube in Live on seperate tracks back in the 512 days without a problem. Yeah, the resample using sends to record or re-route as a "live in" could really open up all kinds of opportunities--from overdubbing, recording effect tweaks to new clips, condesing multiple clips to one, getting cpu hungry effect tracks resampled with effects to save cpu, and on and on..... I know I didn't have problems like you've had with 512 and only two amplitubes.
Ryan
Ryan
Thanks Harb--
Yeah, I've got the most recent version of Amplitube, downloaded from their site. Both the downloaded version and the cd rom version cause the same crash. I think part of the problem might be that between installing and uninstalling Amplitube a few times there might be some file that is not getting deleted and causing some conflict, but I don't know. I've done all the troubleshooting I can think of and have yet to find the real problem.
-c
Yeah, I've got the most recent version of Amplitube, downloaded from their site. Both the downloaded version and the cd rom version cause the same crash. I think part of the problem might be that between installing and uninstalling Amplitube a few times there might be some file that is not getting deleted and causing some conflict, but I don't know. I've done all the troubleshooting I can think of and have yet to find the real problem.
-c
Harb--thanks for the interest.
I have two problems with amplitube, the second one much worse than the first. Originally, the problem was in adding amplitube to more than one track. It worked fine on one track, but whenever I added it to a second track and then tried to change the amplitube parameters the cpu meter would immediately shoot up to like 500 or 600% and Live would completely lock up, and the last fragments of audio that were playing before the lock-up would ring out at high volume until I manually turned off the computer. Very frustrating. Happened over and over again.
So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ampltiube, carefully making sure there were no more amplitube files lingering on my hard drive. Then, the second problem developed. When I reinstalled amplitube and added it to my VST directory in Live, Live will not open up. I get a message saying "Sorry, Live has detected a problem and must close . . ." So I can't even open up Live if amplitube is in my VST directory. I tried deleting all of my preferences and changing the VST path, and this worked briefly, but then the problem came back. That is, I was briefly able to get back to the original problem (Live crashes with amplitube on more than one track), but the next time I tried to open Live, the second problem came back (couldn't open it at all).
The worst part is that if I now put amplitube in the vst directory, my computer totally crashes. That is, I get the blue screen saying that the computer is turning off to avoid permanent damage. This happens whether or not I have Live open. Just as long as Amplitube is in that directory, the computer will now completely crash.
I don't have problems like this with any other plug-ins or software. I get occasional crashes from some freeware plugs, which is pretty typical I think. Otherwise, its just amplitube that's going nuts.
Any suggestions? I just bought 512 mb more RAM on ebay and when that arrives maybe that will help.
I have two problems with amplitube, the second one much worse than the first. Originally, the problem was in adding amplitube to more than one track. It worked fine on one track, but whenever I added it to a second track and then tried to change the amplitube parameters the cpu meter would immediately shoot up to like 500 or 600% and Live would completely lock up, and the last fragments of audio that were playing before the lock-up would ring out at high volume until I manually turned off the computer. Very frustrating. Happened over and over again.
So I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ampltiube, carefully making sure there were no more amplitube files lingering on my hard drive. Then, the second problem developed. When I reinstalled amplitube and added it to my VST directory in Live, Live will not open up. I get a message saying "Sorry, Live has detected a problem and must close . . ." So I can't even open up Live if amplitube is in my VST directory. I tried deleting all of my preferences and changing the VST path, and this worked briefly, but then the problem came back. That is, I was briefly able to get back to the original problem (Live crashes with amplitube on more than one track), but the next time I tried to open Live, the second problem came back (couldn't open it at all).
The worst part is that if I now put amplitube in the vst directory, my computer totally crashes. That is, I get the blue screen saying that the computer is turning off to avoid permanent damage. This happens whether or not I have Live open. Just as long as Amplitube is in that directory, the computer will now completely crash.
I don't have problems like this with any other plug-ins or software. I get occasional crashes from some freeware plugs, which is pretty typical I think. Otherwise, its just amplitube that's going nuts.
Any suggestions? I just bought 512 mb more RAM on ebay and when that arrives maybe that will help.
cderum,
I personally do not think it is a lack of ram problem...
Have you tried putting only Amplitube in the VST directory? May be a combo of plugs causing a problem?
Do you have any other 2.x versions of Live besides 2.03?
Are you sure that you have killed all components of Amplitube before reinstalling... Does windows XP have something like an installer log? Don't know if you can make any sense of the registry...
Did you reinstall Live as well?
harb
I personally do not think it is a lack of ram problem...
Have you tried putting only Amplitube in the VST directory? May be a combo of plugs causing a problem?
Do you have any other 2.x versions of Live besides 2.03?
Are you sure that you have killed all components of Amplitube before reinstalling... Does windows XP have something like an installer log? Don't know if you can make any sense of the registry...
Did you reinstall Live as well?
harb
harb, it's fixed!
Turns out I still had my original copy of live sitting on my hard drive. I had deleted all of the updates (2.01, 2.02) as the new ones came out, but had never deleted the original copy. Since this never caused a problem with anything else, I never thought much about it. Well, as soon as I had uninstalled that old version, I put only amplitube into my VST directory and everything worked fine, I was able to add amplitube to three tracks at the same time with no problem ( I was never able to do that before). Then I tried putting the rest of my plugs into that same VST directory. When I did that, I was able to put amplitube onto two tracks before I got the old stuttering crash problem. Then I put just amplitube and a couple of other commercial plugs into the VST directory and everything worked great---I put it on four tracks with no problems at all.
Thanks for your suggestions harb . . . I really needed new eyes on this issue. THIS FORUM ROCKS.
Turns out I still had my original copy of live sitting on my hard drive. I had deleted all of the updates (2.01, 2.02) as the new ones came out, but had never deleted the original copy. Since this never caused a problem with anything else, I never thought much about it. Well, as soon as I had uninstalled that old version, I put only amplitube into my VST directory and everything worked fine, I was able to add amplitube to three tracks at the same time with no problem ( I was never able to do that before). Then I tried putting the rest of my plugs into that same VST directory. When I did that, I was able to put amplitube onto two tracks before I got the old stuttering crash problem. Then I put just amplitube and a couple of other commercial plugs into the VST directory and everything worked great---I put it on four tracks with no problems at all.
Thanks for your suggestions harb . . . I really needed new eyes on this issue. THIS FORUM ROCKS.
