How to do Snare Rolls and High-hat patterns

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idking97
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How to do Snare Rolls and High-hat patterns

Post by idking97 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:26 am

I'm a new producer trying to dip my production skills in trap. I have the drum patterns set, however i have been having problems making descending and ascending pitched snare rolls. Also, I have not been able to understand how to make different tempoed (fast or slow) high-hat patterns. If anyone could help me with any of these 2 issues, I would greatly appreciate it.

austin_ep
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Re: How to do Snare Rolls and High-hat patterns

Post by austin_ep » Wed May 08, 2013 6:04 am

Oh trap..

Alright, I'll do my best to help you out.

Firstly, let's talk snare pitches and rolls.
When writing or playing these in I generally like to do them in a separate midi track using simpler/sampler for my instrument, with my snare sample loaded into it. Like this, I can just click in, or play, the snare where I would like for it to be pitch and rhythm wise as simpler/sampler will take care of the transposition as necessary. When doing snares with this method, you can think about it just like composing a melody for any other pitched instrument, just using a snare in simpler/sampler.

If you fancy working with audio clips directly in arrangement view versus midi you can use this method.
You can drag and drop your sample into arrangement on a new track and chop it up/move it/whatever to get the rhythm that you like. Then, once you have that all set you can move on to placing in the pitch automation. If you're using Live 9 this can be done easily in session or arrangement view, if for some reason you wanted to consolidate your audio clip and then move it back into session. (it can also be done in 8, however automation in session is percentage based versus absolute.)
To do this type of automation, I would first write in my snare part whatever it may be, and then go into my clip that I have just recorded, open up the envelopes and in the panel where you can choose what parameter to automate choose midi control and then pitch, if using Live 8 there is a simple p. bend button that you can use. Then, just draw in your automation how you want it. You can loop it and play it back so you can work in realtime if that helps you groove.

Another method could be seen as a hybrid of the two whereby you use the snare in simpler/sampler from method one but then instead of placing midi notes in different pitches, you only notate a rhythm on the root key such as C3. After you have a rhythm you like you can then go into your envelopes again and make pitch automations. I find this to be the way that I often do it, as I like to come up with the rhythm while having the melody/pitches for them come later.

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Hi-hat rolls are pretty simple as well.

All that you do for these if working with midi such as in a drum track is change your grid size. When working with these rolls and such I find it helpful to turn the adaptive grid on so that I can zoom in and out to change my note lengths that will be inputted.

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Here are some pictures to put visuals to what I am trying to explain,

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I hope that was at least a little bit helpful. I've found that once I know the methods and techniques, my ears are my best teacher. :wink:
Cheers!

idking97
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Re: How to do Snare Rolls and High-hat patterns

Post by idking97 » Thu May 16, 2013 1:37 am

Could you explain using the pitch bend for the snare rolls :?:

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