Clip Pan Envelope missing?

[Dom Murphy]

[Edit] This is re: Live 9 [/Edit]

Has this moved somewhere new? I'm working on a clip's envelope and have adjusted the volume but I don't see the option to adjust the panning anymore. The only options I have are:

• Volume
  Transposition Modulation
  Grain Size Modulation
  Flux Modulation
  Sample Offset Modulation

No more panning… wha!?

[mrhairy]

I'm also curious about this.

[chapelier fou]

You're goddamn right ! What happened to this ?!!!

[fxrsniper]

Yeh me as well Im new to Abelton learning how to use it better. I'm using some very well designed Guided books and it's asking me to do that but I used it before on Live 8 I cant find it either. There's a track Panning but that's it. The book was designed using Live 8 this weird.

[silversurfer60]

ABLETON.

Give it back, or at least give us an explanation, why you delete it!!!

WE ARE THE USERS AND WE PAY YOU.

You cannot steel features, that exists 8 versions long. We are acccustomed to this features.

[ObtuseMoose]

Has this moved somewhere new?

Yeah. What were clip "Pan" (or "Track Panning") envelopes in Live 8 are now "Track Panning Modulation" envelopes in Live 9. At least, that's what clip pan envelopes become when you open a Live 8 project in Live 9. Track Panning Modulation envelopes vary the panning relative to whatever you have the track pan control set to in the mixer (which can now also be controlled by the "Track Panning" envelope.)

The modulation envelopes are hidden by default (why? I dunno. Maybe something related to Push.) and it's kind of funky to get to them. In the Envelopes pane of the Clip View, select "Mixer" in the top dropdown and "Track Panning" in the second dropdown. Then right-click in the main clip view area (the area with the audio waveform or MIDI notes) and select "Show Modulation". Now back in the 2nd dropdown in the Envelopes pane, there should be a new item named "Track Panning Modulation". That's what used to be the Pan clip envelope in Live 8.

You cannot steel features

They haven't stolen anything. They've given you the feature of absolute pan position in addition to the relative pan position you had in Live 8.
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Moose

[lovethatgurl]

hmmm Im not seeing this "show modulation" option only show in browser, explorer, or show fades. boo

[CALVINandLANZ]

You can add envelopes of anything to a clip by selecting the clip you are trying to effect, then right click the value you are trying automate and select "Show Modulation".