why do you think live 5 browser sucks????

Spectre /Aural Motives · Post by **Spectre /Aural Motives** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:04 pm

i think its great! don't be so conservative ppl! its really more usefull!
i think you've just addicted to fouth type version...
i thought so as well when i've just tried it but after a week of work i understood the new features of it!

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:15 pm

It's great.. just have to get used to it..
It still has some minor weak points that get ironed out at v.5.1...

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:20 pm

i dig it.

also remember you can drag in audio files from finder/explorer or desktop.

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:38 pm

AdamJay wrote:i dig it.

also remember you can drag in audio files from finder/explorer or desktop.

yea.thats would i love

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:45 pm

I like it more than the old one.

buzzcock · Post by **buzzcock** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:07 pm

One thing I was hoping would get resolved is the way Audio Units are organized. I have not been able to catagorize my AU plugs the way I can with VSTs. Not sure if this is an OSX or an Ableton problem, but it is annoying having all my VSTs nice and neat and my AUs a complete disaster (organized by company

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I guess this really belongs in the "feature wishlist" forum 'cuz I'm liking the new browser otherwise.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:38 pm

I wish you could also click on the folder icons to open them, not just the little arrows.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:47 pm

Tarekith wrote:I wish you could also click on the folder icons to open them, not just the little arrows.

that functionality works just fine here in 5.0.1 on OS 10.4.2

Former Pharaoh · Post by **Former Pharaoh** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:48 pm

One feature requested numerous times that I wish would be implemented is the ability to drag an audio clip, created in the session view, to the browser where it is saved as a .wav file. This is quicker than dragging files from folder to folder.

supster · Post by **supster** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:48 pm

well, i cant say that it sucks, thats kind of harsh. its pretty nice in theory. but

1 - doubleclicking a preset in the browser doesnt load the preset into an existing plug. it opens up a new instance of the plug next to your existing one ...

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2 - i agree with the people that are saying the original method of using the dropdown menu on the live plug is faster and more intuitive for live performane.

instead they took it out of the live plugins and replace it with the new method instead of leaving it and adding the new way. which is slower , clumsier, and because of point #1 .. doesnt work

3 - its version 5 and we still have no hotkey or midi control to open and close the browser. you have to manually go and use the little arrow all the way to the left. again:

4 - the library seems like it could be useful, but there are still only 3 favorites icons on the left side. so i dont use it, because icons are already taken by shortcuts to Audio Files, Projects, and DJ Tracks.

theres easily room for 2 more icons without altering the interface from what i can see. why only 3?

5 - if you click the little icon to set your icon to the Library, theres no way to change it back to your default setup other than going ALL the way back thru your hardrive to reset your default as the root. so, i dont use the Library

6 - the new search feature was sorely needed, as was dragging and dropping files and the rightclick menu for file operations.

however the move/copy/paste file operations are only practical if the place you are coping to is on the screen in your browser. because there are no copy/paste functions on the context menu.

but other than those 6 things, its great i think

(all kidding aside i really think most of these things could have been addressed pretty easily, they're not major projects compared to things like freeze and pdc.

just a little foresight or a focus group there to point them out during the design phase is all .... )
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AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:50 pm

AdamJay wrote:
Tarekith wrote:I wish you could also click on the folder icons to open them, not just the little arrows.
that functionality works just fine here in 5.0.1 on OS 10.4.2

oh wait.
let me clarify.

when browsing folders for samples, sets, etc. this functionality works.

but for devices folders, such as "instruments", "MIDI Effects" etc.
yes, that would be nice.
i guess i never noticed that because i always have the 3 main device folders open.
but for 3rd party effects, it would be a grand tweak on the browser.

hyerstay · Post by **hyerstay** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:24 am

supster wrote:1 - doubleclicking a preset in the browser doesnt load the preset into an existing plug. it opens up a new instance of the plug next to your existing one ...

It does work with Ableton instruments. It also works with third party plugins when you click the Browse Presets button in the instrument tab, next to the Save Preset button. Roll over the button to see the description.

jason

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:04 am

Personally I wish all DAWs and plug ins would just use the native browser of your respective system OS. OSX Tiger has such a great browser, and her I am stuck with using the ancient style browser in Live. I have never to this day seen a third party search function that worked as well as the native finder search in OSX. It's not only Ableton, Native Instruments use their own, windows style browser that frustrates me as well.

i've never fully understood the reasoning behind this, except that maybe it's easier to code a single browser and port to OS, than to code for the separate OS, and possible problems related to updates?

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:59 am

How many native browsers let you preview a live clip?

I just wish it had a few more folder choices and a key command to open and close it, apart from that it works just fine for me.

supster · Post by **supster** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:46 am

hyerstay wrote:
supster wrote:1 - doubleclicking a preset in the browser doesnt load the preset into an existing plug. it opens up a new instance of the plug next to your existing one ...
It does work with Ableton instruments.

jason

ah ok i see .. you need to light up the button on the plugin to load the presets into the existing plug. if you dont it puts a new one in

you would think after being part of the beta test from the first day i would have taken time to read the manual by now. but no.

ok the rest of what i pointed out still stands

(i think, somebody prove me wrong)
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