The new Mac Pro

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by login » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:51 pm

If you dont need more PCIe based expansions, it might work.

Other major problem is long time support/repair. If the MOBO goes bad, it's the end :(

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:18 pm

jlgrimes wrote:
cids wrote:All expansion is external which is great if you think about it...
Lot's of Thunderbolt ports and USB3 and HDMI ports...
Will be really, really fast...
Won't be cheap...

I wonder what the price will be. I know it won't be cheap but maybe it might be "Mac cheap". They might have cut some costs in making it smaller and somewhat taking the "Mac mini" approach to doing a desktop but Im guessing a base model would start anywhere from $2250 to $2400 (assuming they have cut costs some vs the older Mac Pro).

If it turns out to be "Mac cheap" it would probably go for about $2000 base but I don't see that happening at all since they didn't pull many punches on this box and is going for all new cutting edge technology.

The cost will be more than the box itself (as what my lesson was with the Mac mini). These type of boxes come with very little in terms of DVD drives, External Hard drives, Facetime camera etc, so I had to spend a little more on that type of stuff for the mini, and while Thunderbolt and USB 3 are very fast, you will run out of ports quickiy on modern computers and will need to invest in a good hub.

Some of the omissions will help keep the costs from going to a new Mac level of high, but yeah I don't see the sticker price being too pretty, but at the same time I doubt there will be much difference in price from the old Mac Pros current price vs the new Mac Pros.
^ they'll use "Made in the USA" as a focal point, if nothing else, when the pricing scheme is explained.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by SuburbanThug » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:35 pm

H20nly wrote:
^ they'll use "Made in the USA" as a focal point, if nothing else, when the pricing scheme is explained.
Haha, you're right but I'm still happy to know they'll be manufactured here. It's about time we started building things again.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:39 pm

^ no doubt!

we need to make something besides sore assholes, health care profits, weapons, and fast food.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by Ajbbklyn » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:41 pm

The ad copy indicates that it's designed and assembled in the US - with *some* select components manufactured stateside. That means that there are still myriad components that will be imported from overseas.
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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:48 pm

:lol: of course. why not use Taiwan (etc) for motherboards. they probably only fabricate the enclosure/case (so what you're looking at was made here) and then they put it in the box in the U.S.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by Machinesworking » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:14 pm

A: Everyone knew that they were going to make it smaller with whatever was the fastest Xeon out.
this leads to
B: It was obvious once Thunderbolt and USB3 came out that manufactures in general and especially Apple were going to move towards externals for PCI, firewire, DVD/Blue Ray players etc.

C: It has six Thunderbolt slots, that are twice as fast as the Thunderbolt out now, plus USB3. Expansion isn't an issue.

D: The graphics cards are out of hand, but more and more power hungry applications are using graphics cards for extra CPU, this is the point.

E: You won't be buying this because you're on a budget, but because you want something ridiculously fast. Most of us have no use for it really. People doing video and animation will.

That said, Live's known CPU piggishness will never be an issue on a machine like this, and if they ever release a clear/smoke version where you can see all the internals like they did with the original iMacs I will buy one purely for the mad scientist aesthetic! :x

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by H20nly » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:56 pm

Machinesworking wrote:A: Everyone knew that they were going to make it smaller with whatever was the fastest Xeon out.
this leads to
B: It was obvious once Thunderbolt and USB3 came out that manufactures in general and especially Apple were going to move towards externals for PCI, firewire, DVD/Blue Ray players etc.

C: It has six Thunderbolt slots, that are twice as fast as the Thunderbolt out now, plus USB3. Expansion isn't an issue.

D: The graphics cards are out of hand, but more and more power hungry applications are using graphics cards for extra CPU, this is the point.

E: You won't be buying this because you're on a budget, but because you want something ridiculously fast. Most of us have no use for it really. People doing video and animation will.

That said, Live's known CPU piggishness will never be an issue on a machine like this, and if they ever release a clear/smoke version where you can see all the internals like they did with the original iMacs I will buy one purely for the mad scientist aesthetic! :x
agreed.


:lol: @ that last bit.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

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Re: The new Mac Pro

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by H20nly » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:59 am

:lol: if that were the price... I'd buy 2

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by kryptonitejesus » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:04 am

It's a Mac Pro, if you can't afford it or think it won't be worth it then it's obviously not for you. :mrgreen:

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by oblique strategies » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:44 am

Machinesworking wrote:if they ever release a clear/smoke version where you can see all the internals like they did with the original iMacs I will buy one purely for the mad scientist aesthetic! :x
Definitely looks better with the cover off:

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With the cover on it look slike a trash can... :|

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by SuburbanThug » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:51 am

Looks like Darth Vader built that thing.

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Re: The new Mac Pro

Post by h3rtz » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:34 am

SuburbanThug wrote:Looks like Darth Vader built that thing.
I was just about to say exactly the same thing :D

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