Anyone know of documentaries about the history of the bible

[myrnova]

In a nutshell: Fantasy fiction fans might be a bit disappointed, 3 stars from me as it's pretty average. The first bit props it up, otherwise it would have been a 2 starrer for me. It has its uses though, if you sit reading this on a train, nobody will sit near you. Just stash your Harry Potter (or whatever) inside.

That's funny enough that the rest of the world thinks this is laughable, but here in Italy, where the Church corporation has its headquarter, we don't even laugh anymore about priests, popes, and such criminals. Last thing those pedo rich fellows took out was something like: "read the bible, not harry potter and the davinci code", claiming the bible is supposed to be a true story, not fantasy This is the "level" here. Meanwhile their bank is one of the most criminal ever: the director was a lord of war who trades non conventional weapons, the vatican gets 10.000.000 euro a year from italian state, because citizens here are oblijed to pay taxes for church . In 2012 the church corporation sold fantasy and "heaven" (charity from believers) for 60.000.000 euros. Best sellers ever

Believe me, there is nothing "spiritual" in the church corporation and similars: only money, power, crimes and sexual abuse. Sometimes war. And, of course, always allied with fascist dictatorships, neofascists, berlusconi, bush and such tirds.

[andydes]

Well that's fair enough. The bible's got some good stories, but they kind of skip over the good bits a bit quick. The tower of Babel should have taken up a whole chapter (book or whatever), but it's really only a few lines. Wasted opportunity, if you ask me.

The Da Vinci code, though, really is a badly writen sack of shit. I'd definitely take the bible over that.

[myrnova]

I didn't even know what "The Davinci Code" was, really.
I guess the Church Corporation wanted the rights for jesus christ character, or something. They own copyright.
For the rest, everyone with a little culture understands the difference between fiction (davinci code, harry potter, alice in wonderland, star wars, the bible etc.) and reality.

[Craftyfugger]

So you have no answer.

So after all you really are just a fascist hypocrite who claims to want to end war but feels it's ok to hurt people who do things they don't like.

Then when someone asks you why you believe in some new age "love is medicine" bullshit you resort to insults and sidestep the whole conversation.

You do not have a serious mind. You are a child. An anti-intellectual.

Stick to posting pictures. You might, by chance, actually say something of any worth or interest some day using that medium.



I'm just kidding. Of course you couldn't even say something meaningful that way!

Your nedd to resort to insults because you are not capable of arguing your point effectivly, proves you are no better. You think you are an intellectual? You my friend are a wanker, albeit an amusing one.

[Jack McOck]

So you have no answer.

So after all you really are just a fascist hypocrite who claims to want to end war but feels it's ok to hurt people who do things they don't like.

Then when someone asks you why you believe in some new age "love is medicine" bullshit you resort to insults and sidestep the whole conversation.

You do not have a serious mind. You are a child. An anti-intellectual.

Stick to posting pictures. You might, by chance, actually say something of any worth or interest some day using that medium.



I'm just kidding. Of course you couldn't even say something meaningful that way!

Your nedd to resort to insults because you are not capable of arguing your point effectivly, proves you are no better. You think you are an intellectual? You my friend are a wanker, albeit an amusing one.

Calling degenerate scum "degenerate scum" does not make one degenerate scum.

[myrnova]

Calling degenerate scum "degenerate scum" does not make one degenerate scum.

[Jack McOck]

[john gordon]

It gettin hot in here- lets take off all our clothes.

[leisuremuffin]

man, those Buddha quotes are really really annoying. While most of them do at least adhere to the spirit of Buddhism, most of them are incorrectly attributed to the Buddha and some of them are completely out of context and bullshit.

[knotkranky]

man, those Buddha quotes are really really annoying. While most of them do at least adhere to the spirit of Buddhism, most of them are incorrectly attributed to the Buddha and some of them are completely out of context and bullshit.

* The quotes annoy you? Awesome. Thanks

* Most adhere to the spirit of Buddhism? - Thanks again

* Most are incorrectly attributed to Buddha? - As his quotes, most are, cuz proof be tough. Many are simplified by 21st century Yoga babes. See (*) #2

* Completely out of context? - You don't know the meaning of the word. Really, you don't.

* Bullshit? - There he is! No need to try so hard dude ^

[leisuremuffin]

it's not about you, kk. You're certainly not the only offender, i see these things on facebook all fuckin day and they annoy me there too.

as far as context, i mean in terms of Buddhism, not the thread.



here's a starting point for you:

http://www.fakebuddhaquotes.com/all-fake-buddha-quotes/

[knotkranky]

it's not about you, kk. You're certainly not the only offender, i see these things on facebook all fuckin day and they annoy me there too.
as far as context, i mean in terms of Buddhism, not the thread.
here's a starting point for you:
[url]htp://www.fakbudhaquotes.com/all-fake-buddha-quo[/url]

lol, no need to head towards what sucks for noobs. Here's a starting point for everybody. Especially you: http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/fourtruths.html

What "I" believe, is not a point for "you" to judge. I will never explain myself in that regard. You shouldn't want that btw.

The quotes don't matter. It was a bit of fun pointed at a troll. Relax Grasshopper.

[myrnova]

excuse me sir... not to disappoint you, but the only one trolling here is you, with all those cheesy buddha quotes in a thread called "history of the bible". I guess everybody noticed that, even if maybe they are shy and did not tell you. You spoiled the thread with those rather annoying and out of context cheesy quotes. The only difference is that I told you directly, while the guy here told you in a more diplomatic way. And of course nobody give a damn about the buddha... It is not a thread about the buddha.

For the record: I studied the bible, the gospels (which are not 4, but at least 15) and all the rest. My conclusion: a load of bullshit, good for people without a culture and/or real mental problems (if they could learn history and modern science but still suppose that crap is true!), plus some very simple moral rules that can be followed by anyone without the need of believing in all that "holy" crap. Very simple because good for tribes ("don't kill, don't steal, don't rape somebody's wife, don't disobey our law"... etc.). Good for very simple societies, clans and primitive tribes. Regarding the theory about the origin of the universe, well... just read the genesis, start laughing and then keep on studying serious and useful disciplines. Everything in the bible is wrong, so, since the science proved the bible is just an idiocy for ancient ignorant people, nowadays the church claims "hey, but you have to read it in a symbolic way". Bullshit, the book is like any other magic book out there: rituals taken from observation of the sky, cult of the sun and seasons + the story of an old israelitic clan + the copy of ancient cult of mithra (they just changed the name in Jesus Christ, the rest is identical: they did not even change the miracles! same miracles with fish and bread, blinds, dead reborn etc. As for Mithra, even so called "Jesus" was born in a stable, son of a virgin, made miracles, died at 33, resurrected after 3 days, had 12 apostles etc.). Nothing else. If you believe in that crap nowadays it means you are dumb, and you could even believe in santa klaus, fonzie, the aliens, the devil, and whatever.

So, I have my clear opinion about the bible and know there is no "history", since they introduced it in 300 and added, cut and pasted something in 600 and in low middleage here in italy (always in order to control riots and brainwash the IGNORANT and POOR population). So I suggested the guy to read dostojevskij, tolstoj and bulgakov.You, on the contrary, are just trolling, because you don't like this truth of mine.

[knotkranky]

tl;dr

[nathannn]

Talking specifically about Christianity here, as in : Jewish Bloke, possibly existing around 30AD ish, may have been a revolutionary against Roman oppression.

If anyone is interested in the early competing versions of Christianity, it's quite an interesting story. Eventually the Roman version won out with Paul the tax collector getting to write the whole thing, and mastermind the other gospels from Rome. But the excluded Gospels are fascinating psychedelic reading.

Despite the name of the site, I recommend starting at
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

which is simply a repository, not a whack job fantasy website if you are looking for one of these *(EG: Jesus was an Alien timetraveler)

As a brief guide: the canonical (they are in the modern Bible) gospels got progressively tweaks by Rome, to remove any "smash the state" messages, obviously - they are the state that a possible historical jesus would have wanted to smash. But there were many books which circulated in the early years with alternative messages, and these were the popular gospels.

For me one of the highlights is the Gospel Of Thomas
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas/

Thomas, also known as Doubting Thomas. He is named as "Thomas Didymus" . Although this was not his given name, which was actually Judas. They called him "Thomas" which means "twin" in Arameic. Didymus means Twin in coptic (the language of the early gospels)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_th ... renditions

Ask yourself : Who do you think Thomas was named "twin" of ? Read about Thomas, and draw your own conclusions. They are both hilarious and eye opening.

Also recommended : read the Sophia of Jesus Christ , also recovered from the Nag Hammadi . A fascinating look at the ancient psychedelic interpretations of this story.
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html

Note: I am in no way a christian.

I tried reading through the book of Thomas but its like reading people talking who are completely baked or its like reading 3phases old google translate ramblings.
Could you just tell me who thomas is and then give me the link ?