Rise Rainbow Push...Rise!

[Tauciu5]

Who cares? It doesnt affect your music making or workflow in any ways.. Wait for the software update, thats it.

[warp100]

Who cares? It doesnt affect your music making or workflow in any ways.. Wait for the software update, thats it.

It kind of does. There's a lot of information that is communicated by the LEDs, and in some cases they are quite subtle. If you opened the box and the thing was all scratched up, it wouldn't affect your workflow, but you'd probably take issue with it.

[thronechild]

You can be sure that if they can't figure out how to fix the LED issue with software but then get the manufacturing problem fixed, that this first run of units will be worth a lot less upon resale. And you know eventually they will come out with Push 2.0 and we are going to want to trade up.

[sowhoso]

just got my Push and there are pink pads

however... i wish they were all pink. it's way too bright for me in white (not using power supply)

i will definitely alter these colors

[deva]

Just got my Push... the led color variations are shockingly bad (not unexpected after seeing photos) but it is still surprising that Ableton has such poor quality control on what is otherwise a pleasingly well built device. The extreme color variation takes much of the lustre off of the new arrival. I showed the Push to my housemate and said the blue keys are the root of the scale. She asked what the pink ones are...

I'm keeping an open mind about it and will try changing the colors to see if it is less glaringly off. I have the thought of returning it, though I am sure I can live with it. It just kinda sits a bit wrong in the gut to pay this much to have such a big flaw always staring me in the face.

[willdahbe]

This is bullshit, first we have to wait forever like they didn't know that everyone wouldn't want one and to make a statement that it's hard to get leds the same color is a crock of shit. There's tons of devices (rgb led christmas tree lights) on the market that do this task just fine. Also, I have very little in my day/night (so I can't read through all the threads) but didn't someone say that when you load a white clip into session view they are consistently white?

[panten]

It must be extra annoying to finally have your Push after Months of waiting only to face the dichotomy of sending it back because of bad Quality Control or just putting up with it.

Some of the images on these threads are frankly SHOCKINGLY BAD. A few minor variances in hue would be easy to swallow (like my own unit) but from bright Pink to off white green..

Ableton should be thoroughly ashamed of this. The man at the top should be asking some very stern questions I would imagine.

If I hadn't received my Push in the 1st batch and saw all these awful pictures I wouldn't hesitate to cancel and get a Maschine. We shouldn't be playing 'Push Russian Roulette'.

[sowhoso]

this works so much better for me:

[warp100]

...didn't someone say that when you load a white clip into session view they are consistently white?

I tried that, and they looked the same (totally inconsistent). If it did work, it would seem like a software issue. But all signs are pointing to a hardware issue. And due to the fact that Ableton does not seem to care, we shouldn't expect a solution.

[willdahbe]

...didn't someone say that when you load a white clip into session view they are consistently white?

I tried that, and they looked the same (totally inconsistent). If it did work, it would seem like a software issue. But all signs are pointing to a hardware issue. And due to the fact that Ableton does not seem to care, we shouldn't expect a solution.

That's just great, and that's just why i'm holding out on upgrading to Live 9 waiting for Bitwig, along with all the timing problems with syncing outboard gear via midi in Live.

[kamikaz22]

Just got mine today, same issue here! That is annoying...

At first I thought it was normal in scale mode (maybe some kind of indication of stronger notes in the scale), then I noticed it was always the same Pads that changed color, no matter what was the color displayed, they were different than the others... So I searched the web for similar issues, and here I am........

I'm still wondering if I return it and wait for Ableton to fix this! It's not normal, when we order a 599$ controller, that we have to take a guess and hope to receive a "not too badly" discoloured unit... Where is the quality control at AKAI/Ableton?! These units should all be the same, quality wise...

I can't believe they are accepting this product as it is...

I've waited so long to receive it and now that I have it I'm pretty disappointed.... Will I have to wait for another few months to receive the replacement one if I return it? And, mostly, will it be any better or even worse?!

I remember seeing a video review on youtube, where the guy told something like "don't worry, I know on the video the pads look pink, but in reality they are white!"... It reassured me and I did not bother, but now I see they're not all really that white, aren't they?

No Matter how you customize the colours I think the pink pads will always be darker/different than the other pads with the same colour... That's not normal... It is a hardware flaw and should be fixed ASAP... They should use better quality components to fix this problem...

[deva]

No Matter how you customize the colours I think the pink pads will always be darker/different than the other pads with the same colour... That's not normal... It is a hardware flaw and should be fixed ASAP... They should use better quality components to fix this problem...

I tweaked the colors today and while I can still see the darker ones, it is not jarring as the white/pink default is.

My disappointment is fading cause besides the led color inconsistency, Push is freakin awesome!

[fishmonkey]

It is a hardware flaw and should be fixed ASAP... They should use better quality components to fix this problem...

it's a limitation of current LED technology. to achieve exact full colour matching with 64 pads would make the Push so expensive that nobody would buy it.

[thronechild]

It is a hardware flaw and should be fixed ASAP... They should use better quality components to fix this problem...

it's a limitation of current LED technology. to achieve exact full colour matching with 64 pads would make the Push so expensive that nobody would buy it.

I really doubt that is the case. RGB LED lighting is very common and inexpensive, there are tons of fixtures out there for 50-200 with a lot more LED's than push has. You see LED lighting in every stage production, concert and tv show out there, except they employ hundreds sometimes thousands of lights, yet their lights remain consistent. There is also a standard protocol to control lighting/LED called DMX and it is very flexible and inexpensive.

Here is some RGB LED rope light that can be controlled by DMX and when lined up it can become a screen showing video (pic on the link). The cost per foot is $39 which has about 20 LED's per foot. Thats retail price so 64 LED's retail is $120, no way ableton paid that much for lighting. Push is not doing anything that is too intensive when compared to modern lighting production.

http://www.ledworldlighting.com/ledvision.html

[kamikaz22]

It is a hardware flaw and should be fixed ASAP... They should use better quality components to fix this problem...

it's a limitation of current LED technology. to achieve exact full colour matching with 64 pads would make the Push so expensive that nobody would buy it.

Which technology limitations are you talking about? LED technology is nothing out of the ordinary, it's been around for a few years and as mentioned in previous posts, there are competitors delivering products that seems much better in terms of colour uniformity...

So expensive? How much more do you think it would really have been?

I don't care if the pads can't reproduce the full existing color spectrum with current "cheap" technology, I can accept colour limitations, but I just want them to all reproduce the same colour at the same values... I just can't understand why all the pads can't be of the same colours... Most of my pads are just perfect... Yes a little pink, nothing bothering, I just wished they were all the same... The problem is not the pink, you could customize that on the software side... The problem is the lack of uniformity between the pads (on the Hardware side, there is something wrong, they have different brightness and colours), no matter the colour, it's not normal they are not rendering the same output level when set at the same values/colours...

It's not rocket science, if you apply an amount of current to two LED, they should output the same brightness... If not, the quality (tolerance) of the LED is to be questioned...

Of course, the more you pay, the more precise the component you will have... I can understand it would cost a little more for the DEL components themselves, but I don't think it would be that much...

I can assure you I would have paid a little more to have a better quality product... You get what you pay for... The Push is a great machine, this colour problem doesn't do it justice... And it gives me the impression I don't quite get what I paid for (Push is not cheap at all...)

They could even select matching colour pads or LED if all pads are unique and the technology is really limiting them... Now it's just random... And that's not serious...