Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

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Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by droidmike » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:16 pm

Why?

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Angstrom » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:56 pm

Multi instrumentslist composer producer engineer publicist tech web guy.

Musician.

In the old days (15 years ago) A producer was the guy who tells the engineer what to do and cajoles the musicians into giving a performance. The engineer makes it sound good.
The composer was the guy with the folio of manuscript paper who secretly plays piano to grade 8, but considers himself a non-player because every pianist he knows is an autistic 12 fingered piano genius.

Most people who call themselves "producers" these days ... I'm suspicious of them immediately. I just think it's shorthand for "I torrented all the Vengance Loops, wat is da compressor?"

The names have been debased by over/misuse

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Forge. » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:09 pm

Angstrom wrote: Musician.
this

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Jopke » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:14 pm

I didn't see an option for 'noob who used all his student loan money to buy a bunch of producing software/hardware that he has no idea how to use'...

cuz I'm that one.
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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Tarekith » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:00 pm

LOL!

Musician here I guess, though mentally I sort of revert to producer role later in the song creation process or when working with other people.

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Anubis » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:06 pm

Musician
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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Bagatell » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:21 pm

I started out as a musician (guitarist) and then I bought that damned Atari 800.


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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by alltomorrowsparties » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:41 am

For me the whole process of production/composition/ follows a set of tasks from 'most creative' to 'most scientific'

1-Initial writing (most creative)
2-Initial recording (scratch tracks, rough arrangement ideas)
3- Arranging (expanding on ideas in step 2)
4-Mixing (i break this down into 2 steps-step 1 is more creative playing with fx/ambience/distortion n stuff, step 2 is more scientific...using eq to ensure everything fits
5-Mastering (most scientific)

Bout midway through 4, is where the more rational side begins to take over

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by alltomorrowsparties » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:13 pm

Oh yeah...forgot to mention time (how things should change over time and where things should change over time) is a weird one as it can change in all 5 steps. But generally the closer i can get form/time solidified towards step 1, the easier everything else becomes.

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by cpyatak » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:13 pm

I've become sensitive to the term "Producer." Used to say it, then realized (learned) that in the traditional sense it's not really true. So I'd say composer/musician.

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by regretfullySaid » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:16 pm

Lately I've been more of a decomposer.
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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by dazzer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:11 am

In between producer and composer. A proposer.

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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Blendton » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:54 pm

Producer / Composer / Performer ... seriously

Lack Of Laugh...

It won't beat the "sound engineer" weirdo...

I could think about every single legend, living, dead, being a "sound engineer" ( = being an engineer in every sono-prod-post-compo-sound design-measures-acoustics <no_end_here> )

That said, no judgement here ; after al I could have post +/- the same when VST was still... huh... you know, some practical / simple way to add tools in your "digital workstation" (didn't say Pro-T... yet hmmm shit I did, indeed ! ^^)

Read ya somewhere dudes ^^
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Re: Do you consider yourself a composer or producer?

Post by Blendton » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:04 pm

Just a little tour to check if people here are still smart and without bad humor... I admit that the "VST ... Pro-T..." was the kind of non-sense French weird humor / just to see uf an a...hole having posted 2 or 3 poll or irrelevant stuff since he signed in ; the guy who could answer like if I was here because I love sharing errors and false statements ...

I admit this post is useless but since I didn't had the "VST not in ProT" I was sure to receive, tha?ks to you all musicians :wink:

BTW great news I'm free from the kb+mouse torture I managed an iPad 4 and despite the need ro "control" more than touch a screen, dudes, I feel like a returned from the death electronic musician.

Not as good feeling than a legacy Lemur from JazzMutant but wow, just with that and playing something REC ON without failing is at last possible.

Good evening to all, wanted to share these pain relief feelings.

Kind regards.
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