Is Live 5 MIDI Clock sync really bad, or is it just me?

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:18 am

I have the Global tempo set to 225, but my receiving device is saying 226-229, which, needless to say, is screwing with it, tremendously.

I know the clock in Live 4 wasnt the best, but it wasnt THIS bad.

obviously delay is useless for fixing this...it simply "delays" the issue.

Live 4 was much more stable for clock sync, and that was one of its really positive attributes.

Skylit · Post by **Skylit** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:00 am

I noticed this with Live 5 demo as well!
Tempo was jumping 128-131 instead of 130... Hm...?

peeddrroo · Post by **peeddrroo** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:05 am

can't it be an issue with the midi receiving device?
which device is it? did you try with another sequencer sending midi clock, does it perform any better?

i use it with a kaoss pad, and it drifts a bit, but i'd say it comes from the kaoss pad. just a feeling i have.

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:48 pm

NO.

This is the fault of the send device. AKA Live.

Chances are they skimped on the power of the sync, because not many talk about using it. But its like the WORST thing to skimp on.

Live excelled as a master sync...now it ex-sucks.

mosca · Post by **mosca** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:40 pm

yup - the sync is not great

try a microkorg and listen to those arps drift off out of time

m

montrealbreaks · Post by **montrealbreaks** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:55 pm

I haven't used Live 5 yet, how is the sync for internal thiings? For ReWire?

computo · Post by **computo** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:35 pm

rewire is something completely different, but it works fine.

But that is not abletons concern, per se, as the rewire protocol is a propheads invention.

Lame clock....

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:37 pm

I gave up syncing two computers and decided to run everything on one G5 via Rewire.

Damn glad I did. It has simplified things no end.

Post by **Alex** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:52 pm

Hi folks,

at first I moved this thread into the "Bugs and Problems" forum.
Secondly, please let us concentrate on the problems you have with MIDI clock and not discuss any kind of ReWire issue.

computo,
- what exactly is the setup you use? (Computer hardware, operating system, audio interface, MIDI interface)
- If I understand you right you use Live 5 as MIDI clock master to sync an external MIDI device. You set a fixed tempo of 225 in Live 5 but on your external device it jumps between 226 - 229?
Because you wrote it was not the bets already in Live 4, how did it behave there using exactly the same setup? (same audio and MIDI interface, same buffer sizes, similar CPU usage,...)

Skylit,
- what exactly is the setup you use? (Computer hardware, operating system, audio interface, MIDI interface)

- Do you use Live as MIDI clock Master or as slave?
- Do you also have a Live 4 version? if yes, how did it behave there?

mosca,

try a microkorg and listen to those arps drift off out of time

Can you explain a bit more detailed what you do and what happens?

regards,
Alex

Skylit · Post by **Skylit** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:08 am

Hello, Alex!

- My setup consists of a Pentium M 1.6GHz laptop, 512MB RAM, Windows XP Home and an Edirol FA-101 firewire MIDI/audio interface.
- I use Live 5 Demo as a master to sync another laptop running Live 4.
- We've tried it with Live 4 as well, and everything was perfect, the sync was rock-solid.

When my boxed Live 5 arrives, I'll investigate it further and post here if I discover anything else about this issue. Thank you for your support.

Regards,
Vytis