Elisabetta

[beats me]

I like how myrnova thinks the more successful a black person becomes in the US the more white-ified they become as if it’s an impossibility they would enjoy the same luxuries, lifestyle, and tastes as white people and are fighting some genetic imperative that they must proudly promote, connect with, and advertise their blackness.

[crofter]

Just goes to show he has led a sheltered life with not much experience of people, all he knows he gets from Wiki, sad little troll.

[H20nly]

that can't be true... then he would have facts... all he ever posts is conjecture... his experience of people seems to mostly come from YouTube while his knowledge of America clearly comes from old movies and television reruns from the 20th century.

[beats me]

Hey myrnova. Check out this US article, read the comments, and let me know if they share your views.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/world/eur ... hpt=hp_bn2

Not being sarcastic. Curious about your thoughts.

[myrnova]

Hey myrnova. Check out this US article, read the comments, and let me know if they share your views.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/world/eur ... hpt=hp_bn2

Not being sarcastic. Curious about your thoughts.

I am more radical than the ones commenting the article. They just claim Berlusconi is a clown and a mafia man, as if Italy wasn't corrupted and rotten before him. Actually, Italy is one of the most corrupted nations ever. Berlusconi is just the consequence of italian corruption, not the cause. I won't even explain what happened today in italian parlament, because you wouldn't understand (unless you like theatre of the absurd, LSD and such things ). He is not in prison (and won't ever go) just because the mafia controls everything, not only politicians (both "leftish" and right), but industry and institutions, too: schools, cities, shops, fashion, hospitals, media, arts... everything. There is no hope for Italy, it is rotten. The only solution would be a social revolution, like the one during our civil war against the fascists. But the U.S. owns Italy, not italians. As soon as italians riot, U.S. will operate putting bombs and installing another rightish/military obbedient pseudogovernment (like the ones we have ever had since 1945). Berlusconi (mafia) is the n.1 U.S. fan in Italy. The Church corporation n 2. Left wing does not exist anymore in Italy, the ex communist party has become a corrupted party which owns banks and obey everything U.S. orders (war). That is why nothing will ever change, unless american people will change U.S. society (and consequently the world).

[beats me]

Hey myrnova. Check out this US article, read the comments, and let me know if they share your views.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/world/eur ... hpt=hp_bn2

Not being sarcastic. Curious about your thoughts.

I am more radical than the ones commenting the article. They just claim Berlusconi is a clown and a mafia man, as if Italy wasn't corrupted and rotten before him. Actually, Italy is one of the most corrupted nations ever. Berlusconi is just the consequence of italian corruption, not the cause. I won't even explain what happened today in italian parlament, because you wouldn't understand (unless you like theatre of the absurd, LSD and such things ). He is not in prison (and won't ever go) just because the mafia controls everything, not only politicians (both "leftish" and right), but industry and institutions, too: schools, cities, shops, fashion, hospitals, media, arts... everything. There is no hope for Italy, it is rotten. The only solution would be a social revolution, like the one during our civil war against the fascists. But the U.S. owns Italy, not italians. As soon as italians riot, U.S. will operate putting bombs and installing another rightish/military obbedient pseudogovernment (like the ones we have ever had since 1945). Berlusconi (mafia) is the n.1 U.S. fan in Italy. The Church corporation n 2. Left wing does not exist anymore in Italy, the ex communist party has become a corrupted party which owns banks and obey everything U.S. orders (war). That is why nothing will ever change, unless american people will change U.S. society (and consequently the world).

Well that was a welcome moment of civil conversation and information. I’m actually surprised what is going on in Italy right now is making US news….and that some Americans have some passionate feelings about it, even if they don’t get the whole story and history.

I’ve seen you say several times something along the lines of nobody cares about Americans outside of America, but I think they should. I don’t mean care as in empathize, but care as in however the government and corporations in the US are screwing Americans similar type things are probably going to come to a town near you outside our borders if you are considered an ally. “Hey, look how the US financial sector is raping Americans. We can do that to our people too!” So I also get part of your anger if Italy is a puppet of the US and if Americans aren’t successfully rising up against the corporations and government then there is even less hope of it happening within our ally countries.

[H20nly]

so America is supposed to police the world?

the problem is that the U.S. is not killing enough Americans?

[myrnova]

I don't know what you mean for "a moment of civil conversation". The only difference in this last post of mine is that now I am talking about corrupted Italy, rather than arrogant America. As already explained, americans (here and in general) cannot accept that people of other countries talk "badly" about U.S., they feel hurt or smth. They think it is something disrespectful. This is of course just a consequence of american nationalism (brainwashing propaganda). When I talk about U.S. people changing their society (and consequently changing the world) I am just referring to the fact that the U.S. policy is destroying the world, being not only the most dangerous and criminal nation ever, but the most powerful, too. Italy could even start a social revolution, but it is not an independent country, being just a U.S. colony. So, the day after U.S. army would intervene and restablish "order" (bombing population and introducing an obedient military/fascist/corrupt/CIAish government again). So there is no hope at all for Italy. Unless people in the U.S. will start a social revolution. But of course I don't believe it will ever happen, being 80-90% of american people brainwashed by nationalism, war propaganda, "U.S. supremacy" and such pseudonazi crap. 10-20% of americans aware of the truth about U.S. have no power and are usually banned, in prison, FBI wanted, and generally considered "terrorists" by the rest of americans.

[H20nly]

isn't New Jersey an Italian colony?

how much tax revenue does the U.S. make from Puerto Rico and Italy?

[myrnova]

isn't New Jersey an Italian colony? how much tax revenue does the U.S. make from Puerto Rico and Italy?

The concept of "colony" nowadays has changed. It is not like the old 800 and 900 colonies. Colonialism nowadays is called "globalisation" and have financial and geopolitical meanings. In other words: U.S. controls Italy, which infact has no independence (neither economical nor militar), but obeys 100% to american orders since 1945 (see NATO, military bases, even justice: for example, italian judges cannot condemn american citizens if they commit crimes or such here). In case of some social revolution in Italy, the U.S. would intervene the day after through secret services and CIA (already done in the 60s, 70s and 80s.) With Berlusconi the U.S. are content enough, because he is an obedient "allied" (servant), being he a mafia man and n.1 U.S. "friend" (together with the neofascist party). Infact, he is considered a clown.

[beats me]

I don't know what you mean for "a moment of civil conversation". The only difference in this last post of mine is that now I am talking about ****** Italy, rather than ****** America. As already explained, americans (here and in general) cannot accept that people of other countries talk "badly" about U.S., they feel hurt or smth. They think it is something disrespectful. ********** When I talk about U.S. people changing their society (and consequently changing the world) I am just referring to the fact that the U.S. policy is destroying the world, being ******** the most powerful. Italy could even start a social revolution, but it is not an independent country, being just a U.S. colony. So, the day after U.S. army would intervene and restablish "order" (*******). So there is no hope at all for Italy. Unless people in the U.S. will start a social revolution. But of course I don't believe it will ever happen, *********** . 10-20% of americans aware of the truth about U.S. have no power and are usually banned, in prison, FBI wanted, and generally considered "terrorists" by the rest of americans.

Edited to remove trolling. Some pointed remarks worthy of discussion still left.

[myrnova]

You call "trolling" the simple truth... I could even write "colombia is one of the most corrupted nations in the world", "mexico is one of the most violent countries", "arab emirates are one of the most sexophobic nations ever", "south africa is one of the most racist countries ever together with switzerland" etc. You call "trolling" these opinions of mine (based on facts), just because you are nationalist. In the U.S. "loving your country", "blessing flag", "salute the troops", "sing the hymn" and such pseudonazi crap is a sort of religion, a taboo. In Italy we laugh at that, only fascists have such clownish attitude. Americans on the contrary consider all this shit "normal"

Now, the fact I will eventually be banned from the site for this "disrespect" regarding U.S. "feelings" or whatever americans' pseudonazi brainwashing sentiments, is just the proof U.S. control and moderate even forums. If the forum was italian (or truly international, as supposed to be), nothing would happen, since these opinions of mine are considered harmless and totally legitimate.

[beats me]

You call "trolling" **********


******** since these opinions of mine ************.

Edited to remove trolling.

[myrnova]

mmm... seems you are an expert of "trolling"

[H20nly]

seems

edited to remove horse shit