influence of music and antifascist songs

[andydes]

I'm on my phone now, so can't check any of these out right now.

Political anthems aside, most of these examples- the clash, rage against the machine, public enemy, pink Floyd, the beatles, etc. aren't exactly current.

It makes me wonder if are there any well known acts today saying anything relevent? Seems to be in short supply to me, but I may just be missing them.

Popular music used to often have a message about all the shit in the world. And there's a lot of shit now. Our governments are all full of corrupt arseholes and it doesn't seem to be getting better.

What bands are making a statement now?

[myrnova]

I'm on my phone now, so can't check any of these out right now.

Political anthems aside, most of these examples- the clash, rage against the machine, public enemy, pink Floyd, the beatles, etc. aren't exactly current.

It makes me wonder if are there any well known acts today saying anything relevent? Seems to be in short supply to me, but I may just be missing them.

Popular music used to often have a message about all the shit in the world. And there's a lot of shit now. Our governments are all full of corrupt arseholes and it doesn't seem to be getting better.

What bands are making a statement now?

The western world today is totally americanized (shitty movies, cheesy idiotic songs, superficial behaviour, arrogant attitude, ignorance, racism, greed for money and "success", cynicism, mockery etc.). In Italy nowadays the only ones who talk about corrupt politicians, new fascism, U.S. crimes, pollution etc. in their songs are only some rappers. In the 70s it was much better, people believed in socialism, equality... Nowadays everything sounds "lobotomized" by american system. Maybe it's "globalisation" effect, I don't know. I hope in south american artists, africans and middle-east artists (and people), which are still angry about U.S. war crimes, arrogance and atrocities. Italians today are rather brainwashed by flat "american way of life" imported by Berlusconi which spread all this shit through his media (tv, newspapers, cinema: he owns 70-80% of the entire communication system. Besides he controls and pays politicians. A real danger, he is a mafia man). Old people in Italy are tired (they fought fasicsts and american invaders in the 70s), young people lobotomized or are not even aware of the facts, totally ignorant about history. For instance, they know everything about "blumpkin", sex. drugs etc. ("panem et circenses" given by the state), but ignore even the simplest elements of politics, geography, philosophy, revolution, sabotage, strikes, how to fight capitalist enemies etc. English kids seem to be even more ignorant and conservative, as far as I can read (maybe because it is easier to brainwash them, due to the same mother tongue).

[H20nly]

Italian National Anthem (In Italian & English)

Inno di Mameli

Fratelli d'Italia

L'Italia s'è desta

Dell'elmo di Scipio

S'è cinta la testa

Dov'è la vittoria

Le porga la chioma

Chè schiava di Roma

Iddio la creò


Stringia moci a coorte

Siam pronti alla morte

(repeat)

L'Italia chiamò

Stringia moci a coorte

Siam pronti alla morte

(repeat)

L'Italia chiamò, sì





(Repeat entire song for the English sing along!)


Italian Brothers,

Italy has awakened,

She has wreathed her head

With the helmet of Scipio.

Where is Victory?

She bows her head to you,

You, whom God created

As the slave of Rome.


Let us band together,

We are ready to die,

(repeat)

Italy has called us.

(repeat previous four lines)

(repeat entire song)

One of the ugliest national anthems ever, chosen because the U.S. ordered to avoid using the real one (which is "Bella Ciao"... too "communst" for yankees and fascists). U.S.A. are the owners and masters of italy since they colonized it in 1946. That is why Italy has that horrible hymn, sung only by fascists and right wing (Berlusconi and such shits).

THIS is the real italian national anthem http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CI3lhyNKfo

you blame the United States for the Italian National Anthem. i can see it now... a board meeting with the head of the CIA and others trying to come up with just the right lyrics.

that's rich.

[andydes]

Yeah, I had a feeling you might say something like that.

But throughout the cold war mass propaganda days, western artists managed to speak out. So what's different now? Seems artists just don't care as much. Or don't think they'll be successful if they sing about it. It's a shame really.

[myrnova]

Yeah, I had a feeling you might say something like that.

But throughout the cold war mass propaganda days, western artists managed to speak out. So what's different now? Seems artists just don't care as much. Or don't think they'll be successful if they sing about it. It's a shame really.

In my opinion the difference is that american artists who talk of revolution, riot, sabotage and anticapitalism have no audience nowadays, because young people in America are even more conservative than their parents, totally brainwashed by sex and drugs given by the state in order to keep them calm ("sniff this and take a fuck, rather than think of revolution... It's ace!"). So, they could never start a revolution, and the only things they can do after sex and drugs is to watch shitty movies, listening to cheesy songs like "go usa, cool usa", "it's ace", ridiculous superheroes, CIA propaganda movies (see the latest miserable one about Assange), etc. Young people go to the cinema, watch and listen to all that shit and of course become conformist adults. The only people who can start a revolution in America are the african americans and their organizations, because they are still angry enough to be aware of the facts. I hope they will, for the sake of the world. In Europe only spanish and greeks (and immigrants) can start a revolution. The avant-guard is in middle-east, africa and south america today.

[H20nly]

^

you know what's wrong with everything about that post?

this part:

In my opinion

everything after that was crock of completely fabricated fiction.

young people in America are even more conservative than their parents...

you have absolutely NO IDEA what American kids like. you're so busy saying they do and think things that they don't do or say... (like the pledge of allegiance) that you couldn't possibly have a clue about what is happening in REALITY.

then, there's the FACT that (in 2012) there were over 73.7 million children in the U.S. think about that number for a minute... over 73 million children, yet you somehow can sum up what they ALL think and listen to in a few poorly written sentences.

your audacity is unparallelled.

just who in the 9 hells do you think you are?

[myrnova]

Italian National Anthem (In Italian & English)

Inno di Mameli

Fratelli d'Italia

L'Italia s'è desta

Dell'elmo di Scipio

S'è cinta la testa

Dov'è la vittoria

Le porga la chioma

Chè schiava di Roma

Iddio la creò


Stringia moci a coorte

Siam pronti alla morte

(repeat)

L'Italia chiamò

Stringia moci a coorte

Siam pronti alla morte

(repeat)

L'Italia chiamò, sì





(Repeat entire song for the English sing along!)


Italian Brothers,

Italy has awakened,

She has wreathed her head

With the helmet of Scipio.

Where is Victory?

She bows her head to you,

You, whom God created

As the slave of Rome.


Let us band together,

We are ready to die,

(repeat)

Italy has called us.

(repeat previous four lines)

(repeat entire song)

One of the ugliest national anthems ever, chosen because the U.S. ordered to avoid using the real one (which is "Bella Ciao"... too "communst" for yankees and fascists). U.S.A. are the owners and masters of italy since they colonized it in 1946. That is why Italy has that horrible hymn, sung only by fascists and right wing (Berlusconi and such shits).

THIS is the real italian national anthem http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CI3lhyNKfo

you blame the United States for the Italian National Anthem. i can see it now... a board meeting with the head of the CIA and others trying to come up with just the right lyrics.

that's rich.

This "national anthem" was adopted even by fascists in the 20s, because it talks of ancient Rome warriors as an allegory of the italian "pride", "victory", "god" and "unity" (all fascist conceptions). It was written in 1847 and even at that time everyone considered it awful, so that after italian unity Giuseppe Verdi was asked to change it (with no reaults). It was the national anthem during Mussolini regime (even if he preferred to spread fascist propaganda hymns in official events). In 1946 americans occupied Italy and the anthem had to be "bella ciao", not this awful "fratelli d'Italia" which infact are sung only by fascists and right wing in Italy. It was chosen because americans would have never accepted a national anthem like "bella ciao" (antifascist and consequently antiamerican). So Italy never officialized its national anthem, being Italy just a U.S. colony. In the 90s the right wing (berlusconi and the neofascists), which of course have historically revisionists inside, in an attempt to americanize even more the population, claimed that both fascists (nazi collaborationists) and partisans (the ones who liberated Italy from fascism and german nazis) are "italians" and wanted everyone to sing this horrible fascist song everywhere, expecially during sport and football events (as americans do). "Fratelli d'Italia" is a fake anthem for italians, apart italian fascists, soldiers, carabinieri, football players and such people. The real anthem is "Bella Ciao" (antifascist and antiamerican), not this shitty pseudofascist march, even if nowadays the (fake) "left wing" politicians sing it (in Italy the left wing exists no more, it was corrupted by Berlusconi and the Mafia, who wanted to create a fake "left-right" system like in america, in order to let the same people control the state whatever "party" wins and make citizens believe they live in a real democracy).

It's one of the most horrible, awuful national anthems ever. It's a shame, and the vast majority of italians don't even know the lyrics, fortunatelly. Both the lyrics and the music are disgusting. On the contrary every italian know and sing "Bella Ciao" (apart fascists and U.S. collaborationists like berlusconi, the mafia and the neofascist party, which of course refuse to sing it). Even young kids know and sing it, because they learn it in school (public italian school is antifascist, that is why berlusconi and the right wing want to replace it with pseudoamerican private "college" system with revisionist history books).


THESE are the "italians" who sing "fratelli d'italia" in Italy:

(1) FASCISTS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faKXU0gbRcY
(2) MAFIA (U.S. collaborationists): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhVspaQckcw

Otherwise real italian national anthem is "Bella Ciao". Period. (in 9 different languages) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nSF40smtgw
(english version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGiAQeQc_k

[myrnova]

Grup Yorum - Bella Ciao (real italians' national anthem)

(Turkish revolutionary socialist music band Grup Yorum performs "Bella Ciao" live in Istanbul. Various musicians and artists join them on stage and sing along with thousands of comrades)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwbh6ZHEiUc

[myrnova]

A las Barricadas (one of the most popular songs of the Spanish anarchists during the Spanish Civil War)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Yes7Z4zxM

(translation)

Black storms shake the sky
Dark clouds blind us
Although pain and death await us
Duty calls us against the enemy

The most precious good
is freedom
And we have to defend it
With faith and courage

Raise the revolutionary flag
Which carries the people to emancipation
Raise the revolutionary flag
Which carries the people to emancipation
Working people march onwards to the battle
We have to smash the reaction

To the Barricades! To the Barricades!
For the triumph of the Confederation
To the Barricades! To the Barricades!
For the triumph of the Confederation

[regretfullySaid]

LV & Dandelion - CCTV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v_f8bAGodY

Some man them chase and them run

But him was just walkin' round walking around town
(Yes him was just walkin' round walking around town)
Yes him was just walkin' round walking around town
(Yes him was just walkin' round walking around town)

Don't bother me
I'm going to stand until your wickedness done
And you run from town
And until that day come
I'm going to fight you with my heart and soul

Gonna take inna me armor
Watch me strike and your body turn cold
How can I be a warrior?
How can I be a warrior?

So give a smile to the camera you see
You're on CCTV
They can see you they can see me
So give a wave to the authority
(So give a wave to the authority)

But him was just walkin' round walking around town
(yes him was just walkin' round walking around town)
Yes him was just walkin' round walking around town
(yes him was just walkin' round walking around town)

Don't bother me
I'm going to stand until your wickedness done
And you run from town
And until that day come
I'm going to fight you with my heart and soul

So give a smile to the camera you see
You're on CCTV
They can see you they can see me
So give a wave to the authority
(So give a wave to the authority)

Oh we just numbers to you, just ones and twos
And when we fight you shine up your light
And when we unite you come ready to fight us
So give a smile
You're on CCTV
So give a wave to the authority

[myrnova]

The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy - Television, the Drug of the Nation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky4uYnsF3kc

One Nation under God
has turned into
One Nation under the influence
of one drug

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V., it satellite links
our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
the methadone metronome pumping out
a 150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching

T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy

absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting to close to. . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles

T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special

It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture

Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on . . .

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
Because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder how we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than abhor the horror

T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of video warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background

Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the only cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
On Television.

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

Back again, "New and Improved",
we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commericals

CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
"virtually spotless" "fresh frozen"
"light yet filling" and "military intelligence"
have become standard

T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like "recession" to "necessary downturn"
"crude oil" on a beach to "mousse"
"Civilian death" to "collateral damages"
and being killed by your own Army
is now called "friendly fire"

T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
On Television . . .

[myrnova]

Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY

Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt
Adolf builts a bonfire, Enrico plays with it
-Whistling tunes we hid in the dunes by the seaside
-Whistling tunes we're kissing baboons in the jungle
It's a knockout
If looks could kill, they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears

Jeux sans frontieres

Andre has a red flag, Chiang Ching's is blue
They all have hills to fly them on except for Lin Tai Yu
Dressing up in costumes, playing silly games
Hiding out in tree-tops shouting out rude names
-Whistling tunes we hide in the dunes by the seaside
-Whistling tunes we piss on the goons in the jungle
It's a knockout
If looks could kill they probably will
In games without frontiers-wars without tears
If looks could kill they probably will
In games without frontiers-war without tears
Games without frontiers-war without tears

Jeux sans frontieres

[myrnova]

Peter Gabriel - Biko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY_5e5ew12I

September '77
Port Elizabeth weather fine
It was business as usual
In police room 619
Oh Biko, Biko, because Biko
Oh Biko, Biko, because Biko
Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja [*]
-The man is dead

When I try to sleep at night
I can only dream in red
The outside world is black and white
With only one colour dead
Oh Biko, Biko, because Biko
Oh Biko, Biko, because Biko
Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja
-The man is dead

You can blow out a candle
But you can't blow out a fire
Once the flames begin to catch
The wind will blow it higher
Oh Biko, Biko, because Biko
Yihla Moja, Yihla Moja
-The man is dead

And the eyes of the world are
watching now
watching now.[/i]

[myrnova]

Il Teatro degli Orrori - A Sangue Freddo (italian beautiful n.1 "top ten" song in 2009, despite Berlusconi and his yankee and fascist friends)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkQTdtLsayY

(translation)

Do you remember Ken Saro Wiwa?
the nigerian poet
a contemporary hero
Don't you remember of Ken Saro Wiwa?
because he was too much loved,
they killed him in front of anyone
Liars inside,
murderers outside,
cowards in uniform.
generations
cheated forever,
in cold blood.

Ken Saro Wiwa is dead?
Up with Ken Saro, he is alive!

It's not the broken roof,
not the mosquitos,
or the mean food,
a dog is not enough,
it is not the nothing of a day
disappearing into the void of the night:
it's the lies!
These gnaw your soul!
in fear of death, as always.

I don't give up,
You'll have me
only with a stab in the back.
I don't forget,
and don't give up.
It's indifference
that kills a man,
a true man.

How much is big Ken Saro Wiwa's heart?
Maybe like the entire Africa!
sinking in the void of the night,
Thieves in limousine,
go to hell, may god rot you.
You'll pay everything,
You'll pay for it.
They killed Ken Saro Wiwa,
but Saro Wiwa is still alive.

[docprosper]

Even young kids know and sing it, because they learn it in school (public italian school is antifascist, that is why berlusconi and the right wing want to replace it with pseudoamerican private "college" system with revisionist history books).

So Italians are brainwashed in school with a nationalist anthem, Bella Ciao, and you consider this a good thing.
Italian brainwashing good, US brainwashing bad. Got it.

Go ahead and call this observation OT and bring on the waterworks and "everybody hates me" statistics, you know you want to