Musicians no longer socially relevant?

[rote fahne]

Yes, that is the point I was making.

myr is right but he doesnt get it, from me at least, because he has been whining and childish.

[rote fahne]

if we could get bronstein alive again and put him in todays europe, england, germany, he would have said: mission completed.

And why not enlighten us with an explanation of that claim as well?

My father told me about the "real crisis", the one in the 1930's. If you cant see the difference between that one and the one we have today, there is something seriously wrong with you.

I said "if".

[rote fahne]

The problem is, I find it difficult to engage with you because I have this suspicion that I'm simply being trolled. If you want me to take you seriously you're gonna have to establish some credibility. However, I always give people the benefit of the doubt. Yes of course a lot needs doing. Capitalism needs to be scrapped. Er, comrade.

If you are trying to get some grip on me, you got the wrong person in front of you.

[rote fahne]

politics is just a tool for the oligarchie

So how do the working class begin to control society without their own parties and so on?

dutch socialist party members participated in bilderberg conferences.

the class struggle here is a fight between the workers and the companies, about percentages.

[rote fahne]

I know about the 1930s, I know about Trotsky, I know that the current one is different to the 1930s in many ways.

I still have absolutely no idea why you would think that Trotsky would say 'mission accomplished'. Explain this.

starvation of tens of millions, and the discussion whether somebody has to pay 10 euro each month more for health insurance.

[rote fahne]

I know about the 1930s, I know about Trotsky, I know that the current one is different to the 1930s in many ways.

I still have absolutely no idea why you would think that Trotsky would say 'mission accomplished'. Explain this.

starvation of tens of millions, and the discussion whether somebody has to pay 10 euro each month more for health insurance.

But why would Trotsky say 'mission accomplished'? Spell it out. Spit it out.

I would say for him.

[rote fahne]

Yes, that is the point I was making.

myr is right but he doesnt get it, from me at least, because he has been whining and childish.

Maybe because you seem to swing from this side to that faster than Stalin performing his economic and political zig-zags.

i dont know about stalin.

[rote fahne]

i can answer your posts for one week 24/7 got all the time.

I don't think so.

Oh yes, you want me to do?

[myrnova]

Come on, I already explained the dynamics. Of course I NEVER called Obama "a nigger".

I FUCKING KNOW THAT MYRA!

Jeez. I'm taking the piss out of Strapper and whoever banned you, if that was the reason you were banned.

Just to be clearer:

(1) I am anarchist, antifascist, antiracist and I think the U.S. are not a democracy, but a military dictatorship. The most criminal nation in human history ever, just to be clear. Just read history books.
(2) They banned me for these reasons. because americans don't accept this kind of criticism, let alone when done by a non american!
(3) The ones who asked 9V to be banned because of these beliefs of mine were stringtapper and loopstationzebra.
(4) I still laugh when I read the PM sent by the ableton moderator before they banned me. It was like this: "We know well you are neither a troll, nor a racist, but you know, americans cannot understand your european relativism and... you know... now we have a base in LA, too... so we have to ban you".
(5) The fact now strintapper admits (after two years and calling me "a liar") he asked the mod to "intervene" just proves I am right: I was not banned because of the "N" word, this is just a lame excuse of a guy who calls me "mario" ( ). It was because he, a racist guy from texas and a troll asked the american mod to ban me. And he did it. Motivation: "you know... a base in LA"
(6) some days ago H20nly started to claim I am a "xenophobe" (?! ) because I think the word "angloamerican" have racist premises in america ("anglo" as "white anglosaxon breed"). In Italy the word "angloamericano" just indicates the people living in U.S., no matter of "ethnicity", "heritage" skin colour and such nazi conceptions. Guess? I received a PM from the mod. A warning: "stop being xenophobe"

As I claimed a thousand times, this had to be an international forum, not an american bar. This is the reason why foreign people avoid entering the lounge: americans here are 90%, act in a very arrogant way and behave as if they were the masters. Besides the moderator is american, so they know well nobody will ever ban them. If I did 1% of what they write and do here, I would be banned at once. Period. Full Stop. Punto.

[rote fahne]

The class struggle needs to be resolved, in terms of which class has political and economic power.

first the government has to get grip on the banking system.

[scott nathaniel]

I am ashamed of this forum.

You alone account for almost 10% of all posts in the lounge. Out of about 120,000 posts, you have logged over 10,000 of those. There are over 60,000 Ableton forum members. If we were to equally distribute the remaining posts after deducting your horde, that would leave about 2 posts per member. If this forum is shit, we have you to thank. Thanks Funk N Furter.

[rote fahne]

The class struggle needs to be resolved, in terms of which class has political and economic power.

first the government has to get grip on the banking system.

What government? The governments we have are all puppets of the banking system. First of all we need a workers government.

a government that works you mean? (couldnt resist)

[rote fahne]

what you mean with workers goverment, you mean we put joe the plumber there, and dave the housepainter?

and then what?

sounds like a populist idea.

[rote fahne]

What government? The governments we have are all puppets of the banking system.

still. european government is in the process of making new rules, in the process of reforming the banking system.

[scott nathaniel]

Are you just learning division and multiplication or something? You are obviously a bit 'special'. Do you have someone to take care of you? Where's your mommy? She'll be back soon I'm sure.

but there is no debate on here. Name-calling is the only thing offered. It's pathetic. People should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of this forum.

Hypocrite or Douche?