effect to ignore false pad hits?

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gsbe
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effect to ignore false pad hits?

Post by gsbe » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:27 am

In note view, I'm finding that I'm a bit imprecise. I know which pads I'm going for but occasionally stumble on my way there and trigger unwanted notes.

I'd like for Live to disregard these false hits. Generally, they are very short in duration compared to the notes that I'm going for. Are there any MIDI effects or MaxForLive effects that could accomplish this? Disregard notes that are too short in duration.

For the record, I don't want to slow the attack of the sound to accomplish this. Consider the percussive attack of an acoustic piano sound. I don't want to modify the sound, I want the program to interpret any note I play that has a short sustain as a mistake and disregard it!

Thanks for your help/ideas. I hope that I am overlooking an obvious solution :)
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Re: effect to ignore false pad hits?

Post by Because789 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:25 am

I don't think such a midi effect is possible without introducing a delay on every played note. The problem is you would have to block note on messages based on the time span between a note on and a note off message. But you only can get that time span as soon as the note off message gets to the device. In other words, if you would want to block all the notes shorter than e.g. 50ms, you would have to wait 50ms for every note before you pass the note on message.

But there is an obvious solution you're overlooking: good old practice, to date this helped quite a few musicians to avoid mistakes :)
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Re: effect to ignore false pad hits?

Post by timball72 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:16 pm

Whilst it wouldn't be possible for live playing (without introducing latency, for the reasons pointed out by Because789), it would be useful to be able to filter out short midi events. The same problem arises with accidental note triggers with midi guitars, and some DAWs allow you to set a minimum note duration, with noly notes longer than the minimum being recorded.

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Re: effect to ignore false pad hits?

Post by Because789 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:36 pm

timball72 wrote:it would be useful to be able to filter out short midi events.
I agree, but it seems to me that it would be handier to delete the notes after recording. A m4l device which removes all the midi notes below a certain lengh from a clip at least sounds doable.

Btw, don't forget to experiment with the pad threshold on your Push gsbe. Maybe you get better results in a long run with a higher threshold and the constraint to hit the pads a little harder.
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