who is actually going to fall for obama care

[earthloop]

What I love about the internet forum experience is this pervasive habit of cherry picking in order to avoid the wider discussion. In the case of Galt here, he has not a single relevant point to make about the subject of people misrepresenting politicians and socialists as nazis, so he's nit picking on irrelevant grammar and rhetoric.

Otherwise wouldn't it be more relevant to talk about the subject at hand? As a turn of phrase "An abuse of free speech" is commonly known to mean for instance, that it's a lie to call Obama, Hitler, but it's legal. But hey, let's just attack people like they were going to ban that sort of speech with laughable self righteous indignation.

Hear hear ! A voice of reason. Well said MW !

[Galt]

What I love about the internet forum experience is this pervasive habit of cherry picking in order to avoid the wider discussion. In the case of Galt here, he has not a single relevant point to make about the subject of people misrepresenting politicians and socialists as nazis, so he's nit picking on irrelevant grammar and rhetoric.

Otherwise wouldn't it be more relevant to talk about the subject at hand? As a turn of phrase "An abuse of free speech" is commonly known to mean for instance, that it's a lie to call Obama, Hitler, but it's legal. But hey, let's just attack people like they were going to ban that sort of speech with laughable self righteous indignation.

Yes, and I don't suppose the words we use could possibly have an effect on the way we think. That'd just be crazy talk.

As for Obama, don't call him a socialist, fascist, nazi, or whatever else you think he may not be. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he's a lazy, evil puppet who clearly doesn't care about any of you, your problems, or H2Only's wife, fetching as she may be. What matters is that you're all essentially cattle being bread, milked and then left to die.

Now who's gonna be first to point out that I just massively contradicted myself?

[beats me]

If under free speech you can’t yell “FIRE!” in a crowded building when there is no fire then I also don’t think you should be able to make unsubstantiated claims that a politician is synonymous with Hitler. And nobody is going “Are we talking the Hitler between WWI and WWII that greatly improved Germany’s economy and standard of living?” Nope, they’re talking generic all-purpose evil doer Hitler.

Ironically, if they wanted to make a connection between Hitler and Obama they could point to US military action and presence all over the world but A). That’s just carrying on the tradition of past presidents and B). Sadly plenty of Americans don’t see that as an issue. Republicans live for that shit. Even more ironic is the people who live in the desolate holes of the country that have little to no fear from terrorist attacks or invasion are the ones who are most vocal about supporting us blowing shit up all over the place as if there is a threat on their porch at all times.

[Galt]

If under free speech you can’t yell “FIRE!” in a crowded building when there is no fire then I also don’t think you should be able to make unsubstantiated claims that a politician is synonymous with Hitler. And nobody is going “Are we talking the Hitler between WWI and WWII that greatly improved Germany’s economy and standard of living?” Nope, they’re talking generic all-purpose evil doer Hitler.

Ironically, if they wanted to make a connection between Hitler and Obama they could point to US military action and presence all over the world but A). That’s just carrying on the tradition of past presidents and B). Sadly plenty of Americans don’t see that as an issue. Republicans live for that shit. Even more ironic is the people who live in the desolate holes of the country that have little to no fear from terrorist attacks or invasion are the ones who are most vocal about supporting us blowing shit up all over the place as if there is a threat on their porch at all times.

Well thank you for just substantiating it then, I guess...

[beats me]

If under free speech you can’t yell “FIRE!” in a crowded building when there is no fire then I also don’t think you should be able to make unsubstantiated claims that a politician is synonymous with Hitler. And nobody is going “Are we talking the Hitler between WWI and WWII that greatly improved Germany’s economy and standard of living?” Nope, they’re talking generic all-purpose evil doer Hitler.

Ironically, if they wanted to make a connection between Hitler and Obama they could point to US military action and presence all over the world but A). That’s just carrying on the tradition of past presidents and B). Sadly plenty of Americans don’t see that as an issue. Republicans live for that shit. Even more ironic is the people who live in the desolate holes of the country that have little to no fear from terrorist attacks or invasion are the ones who are most vocal about supporting us blowing shit up all over the place as if there is a threat on their porch at all times.

Well thank you for just substantiating it then, I guess...

Just saying if somebody wanted to connect a dot with a far reaching dot they could go for that, but as I seem to recall the original Obama detractors were saying Obama was going to pull our troops out of the Middle East before our security was, well, secured. So in that regard I guess he wasn’t Hitler enough.

[Machinesworking]

What I love about the internet forum experience is this pervasive habit of cherry picking in order to avoid the wider discussion. In the case of Galt here, he has not a single relevant point to make about the subject of people misrepresenting politicians and socialists as nazis, so he's nit picking on irrelevant grammar and rhetoric.

Otherwise wouldn't it be more relevant to talk about the subject at hand? As a turn of phrase "An abuse of free speech" is commonly known to mean for instance, that it's a lie to call Obama, Hitler, but it's legal. But hey, let's just attack people like they were going to ban that sort of speech with laughable self righteous indignation.

Yes, and I don't suppose the words we use could possibly have an effect on the way we think. That'd just be crazy talk.

As for Obama, don't call him a socialist, fascist, nazi, or whatever else you think he may not be. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he's a lazy, evil puppet who clearly doesn't care about any of you, your problems, or H2Only's wife, fetching as she may be. What matters is that you're all essentially cattle being bread, milked and then left to die.

Now who's gonna be first to point out that I just massively contradicted myself?

It doesn't matter to you because you essentially see him as no different than Hitler. You seem to have no ability to see any middle ground, and it leaves you and your ideas open to extremist view points. But hey, that is the price we all pay to have freedom of speech.

Basically allowing "Hitlers" to exist is the price we pay, and I would say that the people calling Obama Hitler are working of the same basic platform Hitler did, extremist divisive rhetoric. That Obama isn't the best US politician isn't as relevant to me as the ridiculous bile and hatred coming up about him.

In your opinion who was a better US president? If typical to form you won't answer that.
or queue Reagan.jpg

[Galt]

What I love about the internet forum experience is this pervasive habit of cherry picking in order to avoid the wider discussion. In the case of Galt here, he has not a single relevant point to make about the subject of people misrepresenting politicians and socialists as nazis, so he's nit picking on irrelevant grammar and rhetoric.

Otherwise wouldn't it be more relevant to talk about the subject at hand? As a turn of phrase "An abuse of free speech" is commonly known to mean for instance, that it's a lie to call Obama, Hitler, but it's legal. But hey, let's just attack people like they were going to ban that sort of speech with laughable self righteous indignation.

Yes, and I don't suppose the words we use could possibly have an effect on the way we think. That'd just be crazy talk.

As for Obama, don't call him a socialist, fascist, nazi, or whatever else you think he may not be. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he's a lazy, evil puppet who clearly doesn't care about any of you, your problems, or H2Only's wife, fetching as she may be. What matters is that you're all essentially cattle being bread, milked and then left to die.

Now who's gonna be first to point out that I just massively contradicted myself?

It doesn't matter to you because you essentially see him as no different than Hitler. You seem to have no ability to see any middle ground, and it leaves you and your ideas open to extremist view points. But hey, that is the price we all pay to have freedom of speech.

Basically allowing "Hitlers" to exist is the price we pay, and I would say that the people calling Obama Hitler are working of the same basic platform Hitler did, extremist divisive rhetoric. That Obama isn't the best US politician isn't as relevant to me as the ridiculous bile and hatred coming up about him.

In your opinion who was a better US president? If typical to form you won't answer that.
or queue Reagan.jpg

Jefferson.

[beats me]

Basically allowing "Hitlers" to exist is the price we pay, and I would say that the people calling Obama Hitler are working of the same basic platform Hitler did, extremist divisive rhetoric. That Obama isn't the best US politician isn't as relevant to me as the ridiculous bile and hatred coming up about him.

Exactly.

Even in the liberal haven of California I was talking to a friend and in a drunken stuper she launched into a diatribe about Obama being a Muslim and just like Hitler. All I could do was go and found it quite horrifying. Of course she couldn’t back anything up with fact. She was just repeating what the Republican extremists have been blasting over the airwaves over, and over, and over, and over. Oh, and she also believes he isn’t an American citizen.

She doesn’t have the intellect or even the interest to politically debate but boy can she sure marinade in sensationalist bullshit. And there are millions of Americans just like her.

[Galt]

I'll give you that the actual quote was fairly arbitrary, but the whole article is worth reading for a good description of what National Socialism was. H2Only's wife was the woman in the pic wasn't she? My special girl is fine thanks. How's your special person/animal/rubber doll/household implement?

Congrats, you've sunk to a new low.

[H20nly]

I'll give you that the actual quote was fairly arbitrary, but the whole article is worth reading for a good description of what National Socialism was. H2Only's wife was the woman in the pic wasn't she? My special girl is fine thanks. How's your special person/animal/rubber doll/household implement?

Congrats, you've sunk to a new low.

Of course. It wasn't a joke, no I was serious. I am trying to trick people into thinking that H2Only's wife was the woman in the pic. Is it working?

The fact that she's my wife and my "trunk" is the cause of the weight of all things elephant to be massively overemphasized is truly the main point of confusion here... So really, it's about my enormous cock.

Carry on....

[H20nly]

bell end, yes. head, no.

[Machinesworking]

What matters is that you're all essentially cattle being bread, milked and then left to die.

Now who's gonna be first to point out that I just massively contradicted myself?

Bred.

You always contradict yourself.

In an earlier incarnation of the "Galt", this would have been a crushing blow to his routine grammar nazi idea on how to win the interwebz!

[Machinesworking]

Jefferson.

From what we know a fine president, but not one that you can really firmly say supports modern society.
A slave owner, a product of his time perhaps, but his time was total shit. Landed Gentry, rich white males only have freedom the rest are less than dogs.
Basically he exists too far back in history to make any definite statements about his ethics, personal liberty was prepubescent and only for the owning class.

Yeah, Obama wants to enslave us, ("cattle being bread, milked and then left to die") with health care, and a slave owner was the best US president. No contradiction there.

[Galt]

Jefferson.

From what we know a fine president, but not one that you can really firmly say supports modern society.
A slave owner, a product of his time perhaps, but his time was total shit. Landed Gentry, rich white males only have freedom the rest are less than dogs.
Basically he exists too far back in history to make any definite statements about his ethics, personal liberty was prepubescent and only for the owning class.

Yeah, Obama wants to enslave us, ("cattle being bread, milked and then left to die") with health care, and a slave owner was the best US president. No contradiction there.

None at all. Obama sees the government as limitless in power (the AHCA is very clearly unconstitutional). Jefferson, on the other hand, was pretty much as minarchist as you can get without dissolving the state entirely.

As for the slave question, the only genuinely just thing to do would have been to return them to the countries from which they were plucked, yet for some unexplained reason, I don't see many slave-descendants trying to leave the states.

Besides, without slavery, we wouldn't have the Wu.

[Galt]

As for the slave question, the only genuinely just thing to do would have been to return them to the countries from which they were plucked, yet for some unexplained reason, I don't see many slave-descendants trying to leave the states.

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I thought you'd like that.