Question about Cracked Versions

[eyeknow]

Fuck you asshole
If you can't discuss differing opinions from yours without offending people, you should not be on this forum!
Who the fuck do you think you are to talk to me like this?!

You need help

[eyeknow]

Not a crackhead.

Come now, HUGS ALL ROUND.

I invite him to come to Berlin and call me a thief to my face...after that hug he will never call someone a thief ever again
Fuck that motherfucker!

Ooooooooooo, the threats. You know, with what you said to me, I was pretty pissed. That doesn't count does it?

[H20nly]

Maybe not everyone in this world comes from a background where mommy and daddy flip the bills?! Don't extend your own experience out to the whole world!

In other words.......yous a crackhead

fixed

[TomViolenz]

Not a crackhead.

Come now, HUGS ALL ROUND.

I invite him to come to Berlin and call me a thief to my face...after that hug he will never call someone a thief ever again
Fuck that motherfucker!

Ooooooooooo, the threats. You know, with what you said to me, I was pretty pissed. That doesn't count does it?

I don't know what about what I said was offensive, but you calling me a thief is crossing quite a few lines where I come from. So my invitation to tell me this to my face stands

[cmreal04]

i think many people use the crack version before buying,
so in the end it creates more customers eventually.

This is false. But of course people know that already. I HAS A DEMO. If you can't figure it out with the demo, you're just a fucking crackhead. People crack because they are cheap ass bastards. (and most of them have mommy and daddy to flip the bill so please spare me the "some can't afford it" BS )

I don't know about the mommy daddy part, but the rest seems pretty damn accurate. I mean we're talking about a few hundred dollars, not a new car. I could afford that at fourteen, flip some burgers, get a paper route, sell some oregano in dime bags, I dunno something.

Tom why didn't you just pay for your license? Just joking homie, everyone knows you're a legit, cold, mofo.

Disregard to slang, I caught menace to society on cable the other day...

[eyeknow]

@mommy/daddy:

Sorry to be blunt, but it's not hard to understand. Most people that can't afford software don't just use cracks. In fact most people that use cracks are rich kids with an attitude problem.

I'm not going to get into a troll debate with some crackhead that believes that software doesn't have to be bought. Troll on tom, but since there is no ignore here I'll just have to ignore you the old-fashioned way.

Crackheads are not acceptable, period. It's stealing. It's not food.

[Galt]

1. I always find it amusing when a socialist claims he doesn't like being called a thief. Perhaps we should take a page out of Jen Lawrence's book and just ban calling people thieves altogether, no matter how much they like to stuff other people's things down their gaping cake-holes.

2. It's not stealing. Stealing, by definition, is the act of taking someone's property without their permission (see Taxes), however, were Tom to crack Live (and bear in mind that this is a hypothetical), Ableton wouldn't be light any property whatsoever. Indeed, they would have exactly no more and no less than before Tom performed his evil sorcery.

Hence, I call bullshit on the pair of you. On eyeknow for being a fallacious fascist, and on Tom for being a tad over-sensitive. And for stereotyping. He likes to stereotype.

[TomViolenz]

@mommy/daddy:

Sorry to be blunt, but it's not hard to understand. Most people that can't afford software don't just use cracks. In fact most people that use cracks are rich kids with an attitude problem.

I'm not going to get into a troll debate with some crackhead that believes that software doesn't have to be bought. Troll on tom, but since there is no ignore here I'll just have to ignore you the old-fashioned way.

Crackheads are not acceptable, period. It's stealing. It's not food.

Appart from being a total dick who doesn't deserve a response, would you like to point out where I said the bolded part?

Neither me, nor the poster whose opinion you derided as bullshit made that claim! The opinion expressed was that it is smart of Ableton not to lock down their software so tight that it becomes uncrackable because some people can't afford it and wouldn't be able to buy it anyways. So, no lost sale. And some people, even if poor, may buy a licence when they finally can afford it. Like that Belarusian friend I have, who saved for it for two years 20€ a month. 20€ a month is a huge amount of money in Belarus. But you wouldn't know that because you obviously never left your western suburbia. Or you think he should have just accepted his fate of being poor and waited 2 years to start making music in Live?!

But accusing me of stealing, because I agreed with another poster, saying it's a good approach on Abletons part just takes the cake, asshole! And you call me a troll?! UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE

[stringtapper]

Or you think he should have just accepted his fate of being poor and waited 2 years to start making music in Live?!

Uh, yeah, he should. Making music with computers isn't the only option. If you're too poor to make music with a computer then find another option.

A diddly bow comes to mind.

[TomViolenz]

1. I always find it amusing when a socialist claims he doesn't like being called a thief. Perhaps we should take a page out of Jen Lawrence's book and just ban calling people thieves altogether, no matter how much they like to stuff other people's things down their gaping cake-holes.

2. It's not stealing. Stealing, by definition, is the act of taking someone's property without their permission (see Taxes), however, were Tom to crack Live (and bear in mind that this is a hypothetical), Ableton wouldn't be light any property whatsoever. Indeed, they would have exactly no more and no less than before Tom performed his evil sorcery.

Hence, I call bullshit on the pair of you. On eyeknow for being a fallacious fascist, and on Tom for being a tad over-sensitive. And for stereotyping. He likes to stereotype.

Since nothing in my post indicated even tolerance with the crackers, calling me a thief is just a very offensive assumptions on his part.
I bet if he would go out wherever he lives and calls people with differing opinions thiefs, there would be quite a few of them a tad over sensitive. So I call bullshit on your false equivalence here.
And spare me your sophistry...

[TomViolenz]

Or you think he should have just accepted his fate of being poor and waited 2 years to start making music in Live?!

Uh, yeah, he should. Making music with computers isn't the only option. If you're too poor to make music with a computer then find another option.

A diddly bow comes to mind.

Ah that's such a fun game to play coming from the rich west, isn't it mister smug

[Galt]

And spare me your correct logic.

Fixed.

[H20nly]

Tom, can i offer you some cheese to go with your whine and cracker?

[jestermgee]

There are LOADS of options for people that cannot "afford" software.

I used BuzzTracker for years which supports VST and everything. It's free and just as capable for making some tunes and I even scored some films and all kinds with that software. Simply no NEED for the high end stuff if you are not sure you want to go that far. I also used Fasttracker before that which again was free. Then there are things like Scream tracker, mod plug tracker, pascal tracker and so on.

People want to convince themselves that ripping off software and using it without any contribution to the devs, fine, doesn't affect me. Just don't think you can come round here asking for help and assistance or even complain about any feature or issue because it is probably that person and the other several thousand like them not helping to pay for the development of software. Use it as is provided.

It's normally easy to pick the ones not using legit versions when they post round here. They don't want to contact support, their "Spcific version" is never the current one, Often they also have a lot of expensive plugins which doesn't make sense, they get very animated when suggesting their versions are not legit or just plain rude. Rarely though do they hang around in the forums and post much because that puts them on radar.

Toms not a crack user... He's just German

[eyeknow]

"my name is tom and I'm telling you to come to germany so I can kick your ass!"



"and don't step on my cracked software"