Pressing the record button will record a new clip

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:44 pm

Whenever the selected track is armed, pressing the record button will launch a new clip record. Which is not the case by clicking on the computer. This behavior is dangerous. Am i missing something ?

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:56 pm

That's not supposed to work this way.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:02 pm

huh ?
That's weird. Just to be sure, i am talking about the session record button (the red circle). It does this from push but not from mouse clicking.

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:06 pm

Yep.
I thought this could be related to the "start transport with record" option that was introduced at some point after the 9.0 release, but I play with the option and couldn't reproduce your behavior.
(Why was this option was implemented ? I can't remember, but I know you know because it was discussed here, and you were part of it).

Do you observe this behavior with audio clips ? Midi ? Both ?
I think I had the same problem when I got my push, but I just tried all the options and can't re-do it.

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:12 pm

Oh, maybe your firmware is not the last one ?
Push should normally detect it and propose you to update, but ...
Which Live version ?

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:33 am

Just upgraded the firmware, running 9.1.1 and this is the same.
clicking and using the button in push do not produce the same result.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:48 am

It happens on midi and audio tracks. Contacted ableton.
(reason is :
i've got many tracks record enabled, cause i loop on the fly and have to keep them ready to record. Pressing the session record on the push will then record empty clips in all of these tracks. And this is really bad !)

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:35 am

That is strange, I know your setup and have already tried to see what happens, but couldn't reproduce it.
Did you try the "start transport with record" option to see if it resolve your problem ?

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:46 am

Even with the "start transport blablabla" I have no problem.

stevoEOS · Post by **stevoEOS** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:04 pm

I have the same problem

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:45 pm

Hate this. ! Same thing on 2 computers...

siliconarc · Post by **siliconarc** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:32 pm

do you mean that new clips are recorded beneath the current clips?
not sure what you mean without seeing your screen.
are all your tracks record-armed using the mouse & cmd-click before you move over to Push?

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:09 pm

Did you solved this ?

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:00 am

Nope, not solved.
let me explain the issue once more, so it's really clear :

In live 9, the default behavior of the session record button is : you click on it, it will hit record in every armed track. To avoid it, go in prefs, uncheck 'launch transport when record' (which is a strange label for the effect....anyway). Now when you click it, it enables OVR in armed MIDI tracks, and enable session automation record if the appropriate control is checked. Perfect.

Now do the same but with the button on Push. Stuck to the first behavior, regardless of the 'launch transport when record' in the prefs.

Valiumdupeuple · Post by **Valiumdupeuple** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:26 pm

I've already completely understood what you mean Chapelier.
And I really can't reproduce. I did the test with your configuration (one INPUT track with the input selector set to "In" feeds many other audio tracks whose are set to receive input from the INPUT track, input selector set to "off", all armed).
Here, the Push rec button works exactly like the session record button on the screen...
Are you using any m4l device that could eventually conflict with Push's behavior, or a midi script ?

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