Un-consolidating a clip?

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Daniel_S
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Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by Daniel_S » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:41 pm

I consolidated a clip contain a synth melody as I wanted to chop off the start and end and just leave myself with a 2-bar loop.

What I didn't know was that by doing this, it has also removed all of the other piano roll keys and now I'm left with the 4 keys that were used to create the melody.

I didn't realise that this had happened until I returned to the project the following night so cant do a simple un-do.

Is there a way of bringing back the full piano roll?

Thanks

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Re: Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by keamo » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:03 pm

Before you ever make big changes to anything always consider copy and pasting the AudioTrack/MidiTrack and freezing the older version. This will allow you to always come back to your previous version, without going through the hassle of saving a new file. Although I do both because things just happen. After you consolidate anything midi, to the best of my knowledge, it just creates what ever you have selected as it's own new clip... which means it probably deleted everything else around it..

Unless you can zoom out of the new clip, as sometimes I've seen consolidating the middle of a midi part I believe there was still midi notes out side of the new measure... i may be confusing this with something else but I believe you might be able to zoom out and see those notes... but again that kind of goes away from what consolidating actually is doing.. id like to think this is the solution to this but i feel this maybe a hard lesson to learn.

If you didn't already have it built out in session view, then that's another one to learn. If you ever make any midi, audio, etc. You can store all of it in it's own midi/audio track in session view, then with simple coloring or naming conventions you can easily recall that part and drop it back in. Always try to have a back up of your back up! I'd like to reiterate copy and pasting your work, freezing the track, color it red, name it ORIGINAL WHATEVER, and then work on the new paste... as a heavy duty digital sound engineering type producer I literally have up to 100 tracks in a single song because of these "save yourself" tricks. My latest production had 10 frozen Bass tracks that were simply me trying to make sure I don't over do it and then unable to come back to it later.


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Re: Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by PantsDown » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:41 pm

Daniel_S wrote:I consolidated a clip contain a synth melody as I wanted to chop off the start and end and just leave myself with a 2-bar loop.

What I didn't know was that by doing this, it has also removed all of the other piano roll keys and now I'm left with the 4 keys that were used to create the melody.

I didn't realise that this had happened until I returned to the project the following night so cant do a simple un-do.

Is there a way of bringing back the full piano roll?

Thanks
We talking midi here? Is the clip not just folded? is there a Button in the top left of the clip in yellow that says fold? if so just click that and it will show all the piano roll.

If its not that and something else.. why not just copy the midi out of that clip into a new empty clip?

Patrick

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Re: Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by Daniel_S » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:41 pm

PantsDown wrote:
Daniel_S wrote:I consolidated a clip contain a synth melody as I wanted to chop off the start and end and just leave myself with a 2-bar loop.

What I didn't know was that by doing this, it has also removed all of the other piano roll keys and now I'm left with the 4 keys that were used to create the melody.

I didn't realise that this had happened until I returned to the project the following night so cant do a simple un-do.

Is there a way of bringing back the full piano roll?

Thanks
We talking midi here? Is the clip not just folded? is there a Button in the top left of the clip in yellow that says fold? if so just click that and it will show all the piano roll.

If its not that and something else.. why not just copy the midi out of that clip into a new empty clip?

Patrick
haha this was it!!

Thanks :D

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Re: Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by PantsDown » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:07 pm

Daniel_S wrote:
PantsDown wrote:
Daniel_S wrote:I consolidated a clip contain a synth melody as I wanted to chop off the start and end and just leave myself with a 2-bar loop.

What I didn't know was that by doing this, it has also removed all of the other piano roll keys and now I'm left with the 4 keys that were used to create the melody.

I didn't realise that this had happened until I returned to the project the following night so cant do a simple un-do.

Is there a way of bringing back the full piano roll?

Thanks
We talking midi here? Is the clip not just folded? is there a Button in the top left of the clip in yellow that says fold? if so just click that and it will show all the piano roll.

If its not that and something else.. why not just copy the midi out of that clip into a new empty clip?

Patrick
haha this was it!!

Thanks :D
No worries... sometimes you just need a fresh pair of eyes on it!

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Re: Un-consolidating a clip?

Post by Samuel L. Jizzle » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:54 pm

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