Push ruins resample ability

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Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:46 pm

So I am try to record an improvisation of multiple tracks. I set a track to record master output. As soon as I move to another track it stops recording the clip. Wonderful!!!! I never had this issue back when I was using the novation sl automap stuff.

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:50 pm

and no i do not want to record to the arrange window. that will not work for me because i am using numerology to send midi to multiple vst instruments that are all set to "in" so they will not record. i am shocked that ableton has broken this feature

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by yur2die4 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:53 pm

This is one of the first things I try to warn people of. The monitoring pretty much kills my flexibility when trying to use additional controllers. :/

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:43 am

why don't they write a script so tracks and certain functions like resampling can be locked out of controller actions
they did something wrong because as i said before i could do this with novation sl controllers

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:06 am

ambientidm wrote: they did something wrong because as i said before i could do this with novation sl controllers
No, you do, actually. :)

I think this is because of the auto-arm system with Push. But if you make sure to "really" arm the track (the arm button should be red and not just light pink) you shouldn't have this problem.


[edit after a check with Push in hands] No, actually you don't. And you're right. In fact, if you unselect exclusive arm in the preferences it's better but not consistent at all. It looks ok if you select other tracks with the track select buttons underneath the LCD screen, but if you do it with the left/right arrows the resampling clip will stop recording.

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:15 pm

Valiumdupeuple wrote:
ambientidm wrote: they did something wrong because as i said before i could do this with novation sl controllers
No, you do, actually. :)

I think this is because of the auto-arm system with Push. But if you make sure to "really" arm the track (the arm button should be red and not just light pink) you shouldn't have this problem.


[edit after a check with Push in hands] No, actually you don't. And you're right. In fact, if you unselect exclusive arm in the preferences it's better but not consistent at all. It looks ok if you select other tracks with the track select buttons underneath the LCD screen, but if you do it with the left/right arrows the resampling clip will stop recording.
unbelievable that ableton has broken their own software functionality with their own controller


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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:19 pm

shouldn't be as simple as "if i want a clip to stop recording i will stop it on my own and not arrow movement halts clip recording!!!!!"
do they even test this stuff before releasing it?

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:22 pm

I'm pretty sure it has been tested by Ableton. I guess a more "natural" approach for us dealing with this specific situation today would lead to some major conflict in Push's behavior. I didn't take time to think about what situation, though.
BTW, did you email the ableton support ? You definitely should.

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:06 pm

maybe i'll record the output with my iphone5 if i could figure out how to get a stereo line into it

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by yur2die4 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:16 pm

Class compliant USB audio interfaces are supported in iOS7. Since the iphone is a low power device it cannot handle the power on its own. So a powered USB hub is required. But then it opens up the option to hook up your Novation controller to the iphone also haha

The way to do USB into iphone is the USB to lightning camera connection kit. It is about $20. Careful to make sure you get the right one.

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:32 pm

ambientidm wrote:maybe i'll record the output with my iphone5 if i could figure out how to get a stereo line into it
But then you can also record in arrangement view.

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:41 pm

Valiumdupeuple wrote:
ambientidm wrote:maybe i'll record the output with my iphone5 if i could figure out how to get a stereo line into it
But then you can also record in arrangement view.
that will not work because i have many vst channels set to "in" because they are receiving midi with out recording it into clips
so those channels will not end up with anything recorded into the arrangement

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:30 pm

If you want only want to record on the resampling track it shouldn't be a problem.
That's what you wanted to do at first, right ?

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Re: Push ruins resample ability

Post by ambientidm » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:20 am

Valiumdupeuple wrote:If you want only want to record on the resampling track it shouldn't be a problem.
That's what you wanted to do at first, right ?
can't do it
as soon as i move to a new track in push via arrow buttons resample track stops recording

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