Adding to Browser

[cmreal04]

Forgive the question but:
I want to add my session strings pro/ George duke soul treasures libraries to the push browser. I was reading on a site about the "push modder" software, is this what everyone's using to accomplish this?

[Airyck]

Forgive the question but:
I want to add my session strings pro/ George duke soul treasures libraries to the push browser. I was reading on a site about the "push modder" software, is this what everyone's using to accomplish this?

That's the easy way to do it (though it will cost you a few bucks). You can also do it yourself. If you load the preset, group the instrument, and then save that group as a group preset you'll be able to browse that preset from Push. So in other words you have to load a preset, group it, save it, name it. Then you can load the next preset from the kontakt interface, save it, name it, and do that over and over until all of your individual presets are saved as groups.

There are keyboard/mouse automation programs that can help with this repetitive task as well. It's up to you, if you don't mind doing the work you can have any presets available from the Push that you own. Otherwise if you want to save work and time you can cough up $20 to someone else who has already done this.

Keep in mind that first group you make will have the controls layed out the same as all the others you make after that. So when you get ready to save the presets, click the arrow and hit config and setup some controls that you'd like to see on the Push. Then all the presets will have those controls available when you save them each time.

Good luck with it

[cmreal04]

Ok great, thanks for the info!

[sowhoso]

...you can load the next preset from the kontakt interface, save it, name it, and do that over and over until all of your individual presets are saved as groups.

i don't understand so many people doing this. it has to be the worse way to use VSTi presets

i mean, how does this improve workflow?

[jestermgee]

...you can load the next preset from the kontakt interface, save it, name it, and do that over and over until all of your individual presets are saved as groups.

i don't understand so many people doing this. it has to be the worse way to use VSTi presets

i mean, how does this improve workflow?

> Press Add Track
> Browse to favourite VSTi
> Browse for a patch
> click the action button

... Don't like that one

> Browse
> Select next
> Load

... That is sweet, let's start on that... Continue producing.

All without even touching the PC or looking at a monitor and all while the beat goes on.

Of course not everyone likes to thumb through presets but when you are creating and decide "I need a little something in this but I don't know what" it can be handy to just press a couple of buttons and test a few different sounds out without having to swing back to the keyboard and mouse and click away.

Until I actually got Push and started mucking around loading things in and swapping things round I thought the same way but when you are really getting ideas going and you can keep on the Push surface to load new sounds it feels a lot more like an actual process than just clicking things with the mouse.

[Airyck]

...you can load the next preset from the kontakt interface, save it, name it, and do that over and over until all of your individual presets are saved as groups.

i don't understand so many people doing this. it has to be the worse way to use VSTi presets

i mean, how does this improve workflow?

You can flip through presets very quickly whilst playing the pads so that you don't have to take your hands off the controller, grab the mouse, look at the screen, click to open the GUI of the plugin, locate the presets you want to browse, click on the preset, go back to the controller and try it out.

With the presets saved as groups with the Push, you can be playing the Push, have access to all of your "bass" presets between "all" of your plugins, you just hit one single button on the Push to choose the next preset. Play and see if it fits, if not, hit the button again and you have another preset loaded.

It seems simple but being able to keep your hands on the controller while flipping through all of your presets quickly is actually very useful in the production process. Plus it keeps you more tactile instead of glued to the computer.

[sowhoso]

it's always much much faster to keep the VSTi gui open and go thru it's internal browser

[jestermgee]

it's always much much faster to keep the VSTi gui open and go thru it's internal browser

I would say it is Sometimes faster, not always. The VST GUI remains open and just the preset changes.

Speed is not always the only thing. I like to have fun and experiment from time to time and once you navigate into the presets on Push you can load them in and step through one after another and swap them out rather quick WHILE playing at the same time and tweaking which allows you to easily and quickly test sounds and move through different options without ever taking your hands off Push..... Just like you would on an actual synth.

Just like Push itself, it is useful and appealing to some (judging by how many people have actually downloaded the Omnisphere preset pack I would say its a VERY popular option). I had the exact same mind set that it couldn't possibly be beneficial... until I started playing with a lot of sounds and tested a few presets from some of my VSTs and I was sold!

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For those plug ins which browsers can be navigated using the computer keyboard arrwos: you can use Push user mode with bome midi translator and config a set of buttons to operate as the arrow keys, and even some short cuts like opening/closing GUI (which doesnt work consistenly by the way).

[cmreal04]

What's faster isn't really the point for me, nor is it the same as workflow. I never sit down and say now let's see how fast I can get this done, or get together with other musicians and say now let's knock this out, so I can get the hell out of here. There's something to be said for pace whether it's faster or slower, which both can be good, depending on what it is. Hardware like push sets the pace...

[sowhoso]

so you'd rather spend time browsing presets than making music...ok



Push fever...

[cmreal04]

so you'd rather spend time browsing presets than making music...ok



Push fever...

If that's what you managed to take away from what I wrote - ok -

[tedlogan]

so you'd rather spend time browsing presets than making music...ok



Push fever...

What, taking your hands off the Push and either hitting down arrow on your keyboard, or using the mouse, is quicker than simply pressing "Browse", and the "Next" button? Perhaps. Maybe by a split second. I don't see how this extremely slight difference in speed is a concern.

More importantly - if you take the time, maybe a day or so, to group all the presets that you'll be using (either factory or ones you made), and then assigning macro controls tailored to each individual preset, you'd be working with a superior setup, and actual improved workflow.

You can counter what I just said by configuring all the parameters you'd be using once in the configure pane, and then browsing through presets, but you won't have individualised presets, each with their own unique setup.

[sowhoso]

What, taking your hands off the Push and either hitting down arrow on your keyboard, or using the mouse, is quicker than simply pressing "Browse", and the "Next" button? Perhaps. Maybe by a split second.

i think it's much more than a split second

load up a synth like Zebra or Alchemy and use it's internal browser to go thru 25-30 presets. they change instantly. try the same with Push to see how long it takes to go thru 30 presets. let me know if Push does this instantly every time

this kind of thing matters to me when i'm trying to keep a groove going. anything less than instant loading is death

[tedlogan]

What, taking your hands off the Push and either hitting down arrow on your keyboard, or using the mouse, is quicker than simply pressing "Browse", and the "Next" button? Perhaps. Maybe by a split second.

i think it's much more than a split second

load up a synth like Zebra or Alchemy and use it's internal browser to go thru 25-30 presets. they change instantly. try the same with Push to see how long it takes to go thru 30 presets. let me know if Push does this instantly every time

this kind of thing matters to me when i'm trying to keep a groove going. anything less than instant loading is death

Ah good, my VST of choice is Zebra (actually the only one I own apart from Satin). I happen to have Live open and I've just tested to see how long it takes. I have many of my Zebra patches setup in racks, they're all organised in a folder which I've browsed to on push. I load up a patch. All you gotta do to load the next one is press one button - the yellow rectangular one just beneath the corresponding area on the display - to switch to the next rack (preset). It is literally instantaneous, at most a few milliseconds. It actually takes longer to take my hand off Push and reach for the mouse.

The only time it is NOT instantaneous is when I've got a bit more going on in the rack - like coupled with Satin or some other devices. But just pure Zebra patches racked up loads instantly one after the other on Push, without taking my hands off the controller.

I have an old first gen i7 PC that is 5 years old.

Now if you were to have one hand on the controller and one on the mouse, it is faster using the mouse, but by such a miniscule amount that it is completely inconsequential to keeping one's groove flowing.

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if you continue to use the mouse to change presets, I'm sure everything will still be OK for you, as well as for me. You like your flow, and I like mine. It's all good.

It doesn't really matter one bit now that I think about it. I've actually typed a whole post about the changeover speed of various preset browsing methods. I am going to go for a walk and re-evaluate my life.