Record live instrument into each spot in drum rack w/ MID?

[patrickstinson]

I am trying to figure out a way to record notes one at a time from my violin using a midi pedal (I have an FCB-1010), and then sequence them using a recorded midi clips. This is for live performance.

It would be cool to load up a drum rack of Simplers, and then be able to use the FCB-1010 to arm them one at a time as I record a single note into each one. Then just trigger the midi clip, and go. But I imagine this isn't possible.

I have Max for Live. Thanks!

[dubxile]

Here an easier way.
new audio track. now record each note with a pause between. when finished record right click (pc) on clip and select map to mid

[oddstep]

This is one of those things I think about doing but never do. What you'd need whould be something like granulator 2 (the robert henke device), but create a granulator input array capable of assigning audio input to multiple buffers. The actual play back could be just use one of the standard buffer~ playback object.. play frinstance. What stops me doing it- apart from the rest of my life is working out how to make a ui for clearing a buffer and replacing it with a new sound.

[patrickstinson]

Here an easier way.
new audio track. now record each note with a pause between. when finished record right click (pc) on clip and select map to mid

I think what would be absolute perfect is to be able to slice a Looper recording to a specific existing drum rack. I know that you can drag a Looper's recorded sample to a clip slot, now I wonder if you could do all of this with some combination of scripting? Maybe with M4L to make a nice guy for it? I'm a moderate novice with M4L, and an experienced programmer but not familiar with scripting with Ableton.

Thoughts? Maybe I should create a new thread with this specific goal?

[oddstep]

I think the looper is a walled garden that doesn't share its buffer with the api or computer operating system. you'd have to create a procedure that simulated a mouse drag into a session clip, then split that into individual files - or a set of cue points on a single file, then loaded those that array into the simplers on an existing drum rack. i don't think it is an achievable task with m4l.

[patrickstinson]

This is one of those things I think about doing but never do. What you'd need whould be something like granulator 2 (the robert henke device), but create a granulator input array capable of assigning audio input to multiple buffers. The actual play back could be just use one of the standard buffer~ playback object.. play frinstance. What stops me doing it- apart from the rest of my life is working out how to make a ui for clearing a buffer and replacing it with a new sound.

I've used Granulator 2 but am only minimally familiar with it. Not enough to break into it. This is an intriguing idea though.

[Bigbee]

Hi. Has anyone thought more about this? I would really really like to access Looper's buffer, before the "Drag Me!" function is used. The recorded audio from Looper must be somewhere!

[patrickstinson]

I solved this problem with max for live. This is my first legit M4L patch but I think it's fairly well optimized so I'll share it here.

It comes in two parts. The first is a PK Mole Hill patch, which is a midi effect that takes midi input and sends it to another PK Mole Hill on another device anywhere in Live. The analogy is that the M4L address space is a big mole hill and you choose which hole in the hill to send it to with the channel selector. Create a PK Mole Hill in the track that receives midi input from your FCB1010.

The second is an audio effect device called PK Looper, which lives on the audio track assigned to the live instrument's audio input channel. It has a built-in PK Mole Hill, so be sure to set the mole hill channel to the same channel as your separate mole hill device so that the PK Looper can receive midi. Then using assign midi notes to the the play buttons for each of the 8 audio channels to a pedal on the FCB. You arm the device by clicking the record button (also assignable to a pedal), and then simply hold the pedal for the first channel and play the note on you instrument for that track. Repeat for each channel, and disarm the device by disabling the record button.

This setup gives you a device that has both audio and midi input, can record one note at a time from a live instrument, and then play it back either from a midi sequencer or keyboard. It is designed to be usable from a live performance without having to fiddle with the technical bits. just pre-configure your Live set, then load it, record, and play!

PK MOLE HILL (for use with other PK mole hill patches or with PK Looper)

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PK LOOPER (requires one PK Mole Hill to send midi to this audio effect)

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PK Looper Voice (required for PK Looper, save in the max devices folder)

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[colorthought]

Many thanks for this Patch! I messaged you on Facebook, but I wanted to copy my question over here so that others can get help with the answer.

"I've been having some difficulty with setting up the PKLooper device. The Molehill effect communicates to the looper just fine, but arming PKLooper and pressing the MIDI notes doesn't have any effect. I placed the PK Looper Voice patch in the correct folder, but I'm not sure if it's linked correctly with the Looper patch. If I'm understanding correctly, is the PK Looper Voice patch supposed to refer to the pk_looper_channel subpatch in PK Looper? If so, it looks like it has the wrong number of inlets... Or perhaps there is a missing patch named "pk_looper_channel?"

Wondering if you could help out. Thanks again for the patch, and hoping this works out!"

[patrickstinson]

Thanks for giving this a shot! It sounds like you need it for exactly the purpose it is made for.

It looks like I did forget to add the pk_looper_channel.maxpat file to the thread post. Here it is:

Let me know how it goes!

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