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lucaslv
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Push user mode knobs

Post by lucaslv » Fri May 23, 2014 1:39 am

Hi, I am trying to use Push with other software, and knobs have the special feature of sending 1 to 127, but I want to do the work of a finite knob, messages in the range of 1 to 127 ..
is possible to do something to promote PUSH work this way?
do a little research with Pure Data, and made a patch with some logical math, but it works very slow .. is as if this is too complex for the computer, but it really not.

It is only the first step in trying to push without using Ableton .. So, anything to find a way of reprogramming data messenges Ableton is very useful for me, please, do not be afraid to share some with me if you want ;)
thanks

if someone want the pd patch just tell me ;)

TomViolenz
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Re: Push user mode knobs

Post by TomViolenz » Fri May 23, 2014 7:56 am

How about Bomes MT?!
That program can do about anything with Midi!

clydesdale
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Re: Push user mode knobs

Post by clydesdale » Fri May 23, 2014 3:45 pm

I don't think you can change the Push function directly. The Bome MT is probably the next best choice, I would have recommended M4L but since you're trying to make this work with other software that is not a choice. Unfortunately, I don't know the Bome MT functions well enough to help you, but a quick search came up with this post which explains how to do something similar to what you want (however exactly opposite, turning a fixed encoder into an up down value). The coding language would be very similar however-- the coding example in the link just stores the old encoder value and then compares it to the new encoder value to make an arrow go up or down. What you'd need to do is use a variable as an accumulator and increase it when you receive a 127 and decrease it when you receive a 1. Then just make sure the values don't go above or below your 1-127 range.
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lucaslv
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Re: Push user mode knobs

Post by lucaslv » Fri May 23, 2014 5:59 pm

hey, i make this work with Pure data. the knobs are working perfectli :D and i made a scales settings with a multiplication on the note nombers, all is math, and with pure data i can made too much things. grait program
I gonna check this Bomes mt..
I think .. maybe it is posible to hack the ableton python scripts of push to work with anothers programs, but very hard mission to me, iam just starded with programation 1 week ago, so. too much things to learn, but is exiting :D
i am working on Linux based sistem, this is the final goal, push working on linux :)
Thanks

TomViolenz
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Re: Push user mode knobs

Post by TomViolenz » Fri May 23, 2014 6:12 pm

lucaslv wrote: I think .. maybe it is posible to hack the ableton python scripts of push to work with anothers programs,
Very doubtfull, as most of it is specific to Lives API and the functions it provides.
But really check Bomes MT with that you can make Midi controllers do almost anything, and the programming is quite straight forward as it is just very basic scripting that doesn't go much further than if-then expressions and local and global variables.

lucaslv
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Re: Push user mode knobs

Post by lucaslv » Fri May 30, 2014 8:51 pm

hi, thanks to all! i search fo Bomes MT and not compatible with Gnu/Linux sistems, so.. I find this: Mjdj MIDI Morph. Downloading now... this soft is to manipulate the midi signal in java. Intresing things...
I gonna report any news, the Pure Data Ableton Push Patch Proyect go very well with some abletons-like drum sequencer for any program drumkit, incluide externals modules.... color tunning and aftertouch total control.
First beta versions avalible soon ;)
Thanks

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