Evolution UC-33 & Ableton

Dodge · Post by **Dodge** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:00 pm

Anyone here using this MIDI controller? Mixing with Live 5 is great but I miss the feel of an actual mixer, plus when playing out I want to use the mouse as little as possible. Is the Evolution a good bet or would you suggest others?

Sloth_uk · Post by **Sloth_uk** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:03 pm

Have you seen the Ecler Nuo4? I used one the other day and whereas you can run decks and CDJ's off it, there is also a 5th channel just for midi. Not only that, but channels 2 and 3 can be turned to midi mode meaning the actual crossfader on the mixer and all EQ's control the said things in Ableton (It has 89 different possible midi controls). It even comes with templates specifically for Ableton and Native Instruments Traktor etc.

zekrab · Post by **zekrab** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:08 pm

Dodge wrote:Anyone here using this MIDI controller?

Make a search on the forum and you'll find out... we are thousands!!!

inis · Post by **inis** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:40 pm

search, search, search

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:02 pm

http://homepage.mac.com/statikfire/.Pub ... dGuard.mp3

futurestore · Post by **futurestore** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:16 am

Well, i hope this ain't the future of ableton live. 2 guys standing still with their fingers on the trackpad. Why do you have a uc33 . For show?

Magnetotron · Post by **Magnetotron** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:43 am

I really like those expensive laptop stands!

computo · Post by **computo** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:13 am

Wow, that ecler neo4 is friggin expensive...It better sound awesome

DJRetard · Post by **DJRetard** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:26 am

futurestore wrote:Well, i hope this ain't the future of ableton live. 2 guys standing still with their fingers on the trackpad. Why do you have a uc33 . For show?

Thats the exact reason why I went back to vinyl

serotoninsteve · Post by **serotoninsteve** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:57 am

Dodge wrote:Anyone here using this MIDI controller? Mixing with Live 5 is great but I miss the feel of an actual mixer, plus when playing out I want to use the mouse as little as possible. Is the Evolution a good bet or would you suggest others?

I Dj ed a lot with my uc 33, the faders lack of responsivness so that you canot really rock with them like on a real mixer and the knobs feel very crap plastik.

I just found out that my brand new Trigger Finger can do it much better for me.
I can trigger and stop 4 different clips in 4 tracks without touching anything else, each of them has a HP and LP controlled by the 8 knobs, the 4 fast faders control the gain.
My uc 33 is now only aditional for sends and fx tweaking.

I recommend the bitstream 3X if you really want a controller similar to the uc33.

Greetings

spiderprod · Post by **spiderprod** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:17 pm

Sloth_uk wrote:Have you seen the Ecler Nuo4? I used one the other day and whereas you can run decks and CDJ's off it, there is also a 5th channel just for midi. Not only that, but channels 2 and 3 can be turned to midi mode meaning the actual crossfader on the mixer and all EQ's control the said things in Ableton (It has 89 different possible midi controls). It even comes with templates specifically for Ableton and Native Instruments Traktor etc.

that's what ecler has to say :

The NUO4 features 72 different MIDI messages through the combination of 4 rotary and push encoders, 4 switches, a 3 position layout and an A/B bank selector. Channels 2 and 3 can also work in MIDI mode and so control for instance the channels of a software virtual mixer. The NUO4 allows the DJ to control external devices in a very intuitive and ergonomic manner. It opens a new world of possibilities, making software friendly user tools like traditional turntables and CD players.

so it means you get only 4 konbs & 4 switches to play with .

wilsonrx · Post by **wilsonrx** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:35 pm

The UC33 is a bit plasticky, but then it is pretty cheap so you get what you pay for. Having said that, I use one for DJing too and I haven't needed to use all of the controllers so it has plenty of room to 'grow into'.

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:03 pm

Magnetotron wrote:I really like those expensive laptop stands!

!! you are too funny!!

THX,
Jason D

dj_statikfire · Post by **dj_statikfire** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:06 pm

futurestore wrote:Well, i hope this ain't the future of ableton live. 2 guys standing still with their fingers on the trackpad. Why do you have a uc33 . For show?

hey, snarky, let's not get off on the wrong foot...

Have a listen....

http://homepage.mac.com/statikfire/.Pub ... ire-Up.mp3

http://homepage.mac.com/statikfire/.Pub ... dGuard.mp3

http://homepage.mac.com/statikfire/.Pub ... Prayer.mp3

All of these are done in one take, no post-editing of any kind. (rendering to mp3 doesn't count!)

I hope you enjoy.

The UC-33 is absolutely essential to my live sets. I wasn't posing for an action shot!

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:37 pm

You've got Carl Cox (Massive)

and you've got Dj StatikFire and the UC 33

Yo - Statikfire I'm just clowing - no disrespect (honest) just having some fun on my way out the door at work

I have this thing for Carl Cox - an amazing techno dj and party rocker for sure!

Carl Cox is MASSIVE!

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