Tod Dockstader

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Tod Dockstader

Post by re:dream » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:46 pm

Great story

http://www.wired.com/2012/06/tod-dockstader/

Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.

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Post by TomViolenz » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:14 pm

Don't know the dude, but I sure hope his music is more original than this contrived cliché... :x
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Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.
Does really nobody come up with anything new anymore?! :(

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by Princess Buttercup » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Pretentious waffle is still waffle.

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by regretfullySaid » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:11 pm

Maybe he didn't think of it as something he was coming up with, just that it was something he genuinely felt.

Would it be unoriginal and cliche to say "I love my kids"?
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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by Princess Buttercup » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:20 pm

Love is a feeling. He was waffling.

Or at best waffeeling.

:x

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by regretfullySaid » Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:24 am

meh

I thought it was kind of interest re:dream; reading halfway through it reminded me that I'd read about him before somewhere, but I'd like to see if they list Joe Meek and not sure if Andre Popp would qualify...
ah the article is 2 years old no wonder
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Post by re:dream » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:02 am

TomViolenz wrote:Don't know the dude, but I sure hope his music is more original than this contrived cliché... :x
re:dream wrote:
Dockstader said he viewed all of his electronic works over the years as if they were children. “I liked them, and I had the feeling, weirdly enough, that they liked me,” he said. “To me, they were alive. This wasn’t cold electricity. There was life in there — in this little box, or whatever it is. These glowing tubes at night.
Does really nobody come up with anything new anymore?! :(

Seeing as he made this music in 1962, and your music sounds not unlike it, that is a strange comment...

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by TomViolenz » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:52 am

re:dream wrote: Seeing as he made this music in 1962, and your music sounds not unlike it, that is a strange comment...
Not really. I specifically said, I don't know the dude and expressed hope for his music. So my judgement wasn't about his music at all.

But that phrase you posted made me literaly roll my eyes.

And lol at Shadx, at least he didn't use the word texture huh ;-)

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by panten » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:01 pm

..and people say that you're argumentative?? :roll:

I think re:dream's point was to expose that it was ironic for you to criticise on originality when your music sounds derivative of your subject in question. Fair comment I think.

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by beats me » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:16 pm

I only seem to love the first minute of my tracks before they start complaining I’m not keeping things exciting and they stop putting out. So I throw more money at it but it's never satisfied. :x

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by re:dream » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:37 pm

What I really liked was that notion of making music by physically splicing together bits of metal tape with a lit cigarette. It makes my own complaints about Arrangement View seem fairly trivial.

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by regretfullySaid » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:37 pm

beats me wrote:I only seem to love the first minute of my tracks before they start complaining I’m not keeping things exciting and they stop putting out. So I throw more money at it but it's never satisfied. :x
Did you try Euros?
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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by regretfullySaid » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:39 pm

Isn't saying '_________ is such a contrived cliche' a contrived cliche?
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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by TomViolenz » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:25 pm

panten wrote:..and people say that you're argumentative?? :roll:

I think re:dream's point was to expose that it was ironic for you to criticise on originality when your music sounds derivative of your subject in question. Fair comment I think.
Funny..., but you should know that there is a difference between being argumentative and being a dick.

Since I was being argumentative, and re:dream neither said or implied the things you put in his mouth, that leaves only you to be the dick.

Attacking another forum poster on his music that he didn't solicit your opinion on (and which you probably didn't even listend to...) is always a very classy move you know.

Panten: File under jestermcgee, eyeknow

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Re: Tod Dockstader

Post by TomViolenz » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:27 pm

shadx312 wrote:Isn't saying '_________ is such a contrived cliche' a contrived cliche?
No, otherwise nothing could be stated to be a contrived cliché ever, leading to circular reasoning.
But asking that question certainly is.

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