Ableton compared to other DAWS

[regretfullySaid]

whoosh

[yur2die4]

Robotic my ass.

No really. My ass is robotic.

I put the Twerk in Kraf-Twerk.

My boss is looking at me funny, I gotta get back t'werk.

[TomViolenz]

whoosh

whoosh

[TomViolenz]

Robotic my ass.

No really. My ass is robotic.

I put the Twerk in Kraf-Twerk.

My boss is looking at me funny, I gotta get back t'werk.

[kitekrazy]

Honestly I think Ableton is one of the best out there. if not the best. It has to be when its taught in major music schools around the world. I don't see FL in schools. A lot of the DAWs out now has copied a lot from ableton.

That's not a good argument. The developers at Image Line do an excellent job of showing their users how to use the app and plugins. What good does courses in Live really do for one in a "music" school? It might get you a job at Guitar Center.

If you have that dream of working in the music industry, you better know Pro Tools.

In Hollywood, Cubase rules. You won't see the giants (Zimmer) of the industry using Ableton.

You have to work with other DAWs to realize they cater to certain areas of music production. When it comes to developing apps, popular is more important than better. Popular = $$$. FL Studio may be the most popular app out there when it comes to downloading demos. It's licensing is one of the best. Lifetime updates and you can put it on every machine you own. They are not losing money with this model despite being risky.

I find FL Studio and Live to be so different. FL is heavy on midi where Live is heavy on audio. I don't like working with audio clips in FL but editing in midi blows away Live. You have a lot more real estate to work with. FL has one of the finest piano rolls to work with.

It's also the hobbyist or bedroom musician that puts more money in all of these apps than the big boys. Pro Tools was not attainable in this market. They came up with Pro Tools LE, M Powered, ect. Now they are back to the previous stage and there are rumors Avid is not doing so well.

Once again DAWs have become religions. Go to the Sonar forum and make criticisms and as someone said before on the forum, ou get a beat down Sonar style. This is one of the most open minded forums and I hope it stays that way.

[regretfullySaid]

I was checking the FL alpha because of the vector mixer and I have to say the display is lovely.
I imagine it must be quite a delight for retina users.

[NoSonic822]

inversoundz wrote:

"lol list some examples of kraftwerk songs that arent overly robotic sounding....."

*tapping foot" hmm still waiting.......mmkay

[TomViolenz]

inversoundz wrote:

"lol list some examples of kraftwerk songs that arent overly robotic sounding....."

*tapping foot" hmm still waiting.......mmkay

define overly

Btw, you never responded to my question regarding Techno, so you hate that to, right?!

[NoSonic822]

i dont hate anything man, or at least i try not to, hate is a pretty strong verb, i know it's hard to say, youur tagname includes the word violence violenz, so I know you are a combative individual, its ok, we all just want to be loved and respected

inversoundz wrote:

"lol list some examples of kraftwerk songs that arent overly robotic sounding....."

*tapping foot" hmm still waiting.......mmkay

define overly

Btw, you never responded to my question regarding Techno, so you hate that to, right?!

[TomViolenz]

youur tagname includes the word violence violenz, so I know you are a combative individual, its ok, we all just want to be loved and respected

So you don't even know enough about music history to deduct what TomViolenz refers to?! Yeah...

Don't ever ass-u-me

Hint: It's not robotized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3eCdo0oHFI

[NoSonic822]

no, i just never listened to sonic youth, heard of em...i wouldnt know that song title, but I dont think that voids my musical knowledge. here, list your top ten bands that youve liked from the past....i'll list mine after

youur tagname includes the word violence violenz, so I know you are a combative individual, its ok, we all just want to be loved and respected

So you don't even know enough about music history to deduct what TomViolenz refers to?! Yeah...

Don't ever ass-u-me

Hint: It's not robotized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3eCdo0oHFI

[TomViolenz]

Don't care, just eat some humble pie and be more careful with your over-generalizations and assumptions based on limited knowledge in the future and I will leave you alone

[NoSonic822]

Don't care, just eat some humble pie and be more careful with your over-generalizations and assumptions based on limited knowledge in the future and I will leave you alone

lolololol youre too funny... the human race would never have made it this far without assumptions or over-generllizations, assumptions especially, us europeans wouldnt have made it through one winter without assumptions....assumptions are key to survival of the fittest. furthermore, you cant plan anything if you dont make assumptions. we would all be blindly flagelating like amebas without purpose or drive if we didnt generalize and assume certain things.

this is an exerpt about neanderthal man and his cognitive abil;ity of having forethought

Based on the evidence outlined, Neanderthals demonstrate true cognitive abilities in the way they haveused materials in their environment. They demonstrate an understanding of organic compounds ascombustibles such as animal remains as a form of fuel, as well as some form of organised behaviour inthe application of pyrotechnology and its uses. Their use and management of pitch technologydemonstrates they had a sophisticated knowledge of pyrotechnics with the ability to create extremeheat, which is difficult to replicate even today using the simple means they would have had at their disposal. Their variation of lithic technology and reworked blades over time is evolution in action and,together with dwellings constructed from mammoth bones, suggests forethought and purpose. Theability to imagine and transform material from one use and state to another based on its naturalproperties demonstrates planning, abstract thought and group communication, which is an importantoutcome of advanced cognitive ability.Considering their technological advancements and associated cognitive ability, I do not think it is toodifficult to believe that they could also have developed more sophisticated clothing technology and evenacoustics technology and an acoustic appreciation, no matter how controversial this may be.Overall, evidence and research indicates that Neanderthals demonstrated the ability to organise andplan what they were doing and indeed the ability to combine properties of raw materials to construct andcreate something different, serving an altogether different purpose. The Neanderthal species is anexample of the evolution of cognitive ability and the evolution of technology in action

http://www.academia.edu/2701094/Neander ... evelopment

[TomViolenz]

tl;dr
sigh....

[deva]

assumptions are key to survival of the fittest. furthermore, you cant plan anything if you dont make assumptions. we would all be blindly flagelating like amebas without purpose or drive if we didnt generalize and assume certain things.

Do plants and animals make assumptions? Cause they live with sophisticated relationships to the world around them...