osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

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kiteless
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osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by kiteless » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:21 am

Hi, I'm wondering if its possible to run live in integrated graphics mode on a macbook pro retina? By default it uses the discrete graphics card which uses a lot more battery

thanks

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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by Stromkraft » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:21 am

kiteless wrote:Hi, I'm wondering if its possible to run live in integrated graphics mode on a macbook pro retina? By default it uses the discrete graphics card which uses a lot more battery
You can try with gfxCardStatus. However:
Additionally, you must make sure that your application works correctly with multiple GPUs or else the system may continue forcing your application to use the discrete GPU
From: Technical Q&A QA1734: Allowing OpenGL applications to utilize the integrated GPU

It would seem that this lies in the hands of the developers, Ableton in this case. I hold it somewhat unlikely Ableton have done the above if they don't give us the option explicitly.
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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by fishmonkey » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:41 am

if i switch my GPU use to integrated-only with gfxCardStatus before launching Live, then it appears to stay on the integrated card. i haven't checked beneath the hood to see what exactly is happening with the discrete card though...

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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by mikb » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:23 am

fishmonkey wrote:if i switch my GPU use to integrated-only with gfxCardStatus before launching Live, then it appears to stay on the integrated card. i haven't checked beneath the hood to see what exactly is happening with the discrete card though...
Have you discovered performance being affected negatively (slow graphics, CPU taking on more work)? Or does it work as usual?
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

kiteless
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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by kiteless » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:37 am

Cool, if I switch to "Integrated Only" using gfxCardStatus before running live, the graphics doesn't switch to discrete.

I'll request that live runs like this by default. I can't see a good reason why it doesn't.

Thanks Stromkraft and fishmonkey!

kiteless
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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by kiteless » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:35 am

mikb wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:if i switch my GPU use to integrated-only with gfxCardStatus before launching Live, then it appears to stay on the integrated card. i haven't checked beneath the hood to see what exactly is happening with the discrete card though...
Have you discovered performance being affected negatively (slow graphics, CPU taking on more work)? Or does it work as usual?
I havent noticed any negative affects but I haven't been maxing the CPU in live either. Discrete graphics could help is such situations but extending the battery life is a big plus for me.

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Re: osx run live using integrated graphics on macbook pro retina

Post by mikb » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:45 pm

kiteless wrote:
mikb wrote: Have you discovered performance being affected negatively (slow graphics, CPU taking on more work)? Or does it work as usual?
I havent noticed any negative affects but I haven't been maxing the CPU in live either. Discrete graphics could help is such situations but extending the battery life is a big plus for me.
I can understand that. I'm usually in a studio with speakers, but I can imagine writing songs with headphones and being anywhere. My current battery is dying so that is out of the question until I get a new one.

Even if the graphics are integrated, I don't believe CPU performance typically would be affected by lack of discrete graphics, unless they share some other resources.
Basic gear info: Macbook Pro with macOS 10.12, Ableton Live Suite version 9 (64bit) with Ozone, Push and APC20 as controllers.

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