Apply Groove Pool or "human" swing to step sequencer?

[sburke1]

I am getting into lots of live midi note sequencing to synths and am looking for a way to apply more human sounding feel to my sequences. The swing feature on the sequencers that I am using (ml-185 and livid's synth Steppr for my Ohm RGB) sound like decent swing but I'd like to achieve the feel of what I can get out of the groove pool. "sloppy" feel, "j dilla" feel. Does anyone know of an m4l device that exists that would let me throw in a midi file and output the timing/groove of that midi clip into a sequencer? I'm not much of a programmer so I'm hoping that the tools to make this happen already exist. Even a humanizer or midi effect rack type plug in that let me change which ticks the beats fall on would be a start so I could at least push snares early and hi hats late.

Thanks.

[JoshG567]

Learn to use Live's groove pool.

I humanize my drums with some online velocity randomization and offline use of grooves.

The former gives me randomization of hits, the latter I use to randomize timing by using something like the basic quantize 32nds, setting quantize to 0% and groove to 0% too, I think. I only use it for about 11% of random, offsets things by up to a 1/128th early or late.

Other than that, play the clips freestyle instead of programming them, but that's really hard.

[sburke1]

So I know how to use the groove pool, what I am asking here is about live performance though, I want to be able to perform live running step sequencers to synths and drum machines but I want to add human feel to the sequences as they go.

I've used the realtime midi quantize m4l device by nonogan which is awesome. That plug in would be perfect if it also had the ability to load in custom "groove pools" or somehow get grooves to sound more like MPC style quantizing. Even better would be able to take live midi input, to set the tick values of where the 16th notes should fall, so my drummer on his drum pad could sync up my sequences but I know that is asking a lot.

[JoshG567]

3rd result may be relevant: http://www.maxforlive.com/library/index ... q=humanize

[sburke1]

you mean the Humanizer right? Yes it is! I've been using that and it does sound great really. Whenever my sequences are sounding too robotic, it really loosens them up and sounds natural. That is just part of the battle though. I've got straight feel, and now I have looser human feel with the humanizer. What I need though is probably most easily communicated as "MPC style swing quantize" or "dilla feel". whether the feel is extracted from a midi file (most convenient option), or done by te manual adjustment of midi ticks, I really want to hone in an exact feel.

I was thinking about just throwing audio delays on individual samples in the drum rack, but there is no negative audio delay plug that would be push my snares early that would work like a negative track delay in Ableton. Also , there are many benefits to be doing MIDI processing not audio processing so I'm looking for a solution with a nice work flow.

[oddstep]

Mpc swing is a delay on even numbered beats. I think the step sequencer has it built in.