Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
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timothyallan
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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
So you want a crossfader which will level out your transitions for you? Isn't the whole challenge of a good transition to be able to blend the frequencies seamlessly between two tracks?
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^^
among my people, we call it "input gain"
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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
Tracks that are phase coherent, add when using constant power.
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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
Right-clicking the crossfader lets you choose from seven fade shapes.
Live 6 added the ability to choose from a number of different crossfade shapes by right-clicking on the crossfader. These change the attenuation characteristics of the fader across its travel, and in turn affect how the two audio mixes are blended together. The key characteristics are how fast a signal fades in as you move the crossfader, what the combined level of 'A' and 'B' is at the centre position, and whether a signal hits full level before you reach the end of the fader travel. The diagram to the right shows the approximate fade shapes (as far as I can tell) for the different settings.


Live 6 added the ability to choose from a number of different crossfade shapes by right-clicking on the crossfader. These change the attenuation characteristics of the fader across its travel, and in turn affect how the two audio mixes are blended together. The key characteristics are how fast a signal fades in as you move the crossfader, what the combined level of 'A' and 'B' is at the centre position, and whether a signal hits full level before you reach the end of the fader travel. The diagram to the right shows the approximate fade shapes (as far as I can tell) for the different settings.


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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
First post ever answering a thread from 3 years ago. Respek!
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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
timothyallan wrote:First post ever answering a thread from 3 years ago. Respek!
Helped me! Cheerstimothyallan wrote:First post ever answering a thread from 3 years ago. Respek!
Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
the_fox wrote:Thanks for replying.
I don't think you're correct though. The X-axis of a waveform is amplitude, not power, that much is true.
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Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
If you fade between two different white noise channels, the transition is essentially seamless as required.
The bump in the middle of constant power fades is definitely to do with phase relationships between channels, because 2 white noise channels would have negligible summation/subtraction, and demonstratively fade perfectly with constant power.
Case closed in my book at least.
edit: Also, think about it, how could you make a simple curve that adjusts according to what is fed through it? Of course there's going to be large variences between the amount of phase addition/subtraction that takes place between all sorts of different sources.
The bump in the middle of constant power fades is definitely to do with phase relationships between channels, because 2 white noise channels would have negligible summation/subtraction, and demonstratively fade perfectly with constant power.
Case closed in my book at least.
edit: Also, think about it, how could you make a simple curve that adjusts according to what is fed through it? Of course there's going to be large variences between the amount of phase addition/subtraction that takes place between all sorts of different sources.
Re: Crossfader with "constant power" isn't --- pic to prove it
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