These Crazy Conspiracy theorists...Rave to this

[trash]

damn israel giving the terrorist palestinians land.

actually israel or should i say the jews *took* the palestinians land.
i think thats what the problem is arse hat.
fantastic name for him, ill write that down for later use...
jesus christ (hehe) these people are lacking such a basic education its scary...

fax-01 is my hero!!

[Paranoid]

Wow, I just got on this forum, I didn't expect a landslide of anti-semitic jibberish and America hatred. Geez. Doesn't anyone moderate these boards??

[ikeaboy]

Wow, I just got on this forum, I didn't expect a landslide of anti-semitic jibberish and America hatred. Geez. Doesn't anyone moderate these boards??

Hmm. I wish profiles could list IP addresses. As someone stated before this forum is public UNCENSORED space and arguements such as these happen to be everywhere at the moment. Trash seems to have his head screwed on (maybe a little too tight) so i doubt he's an anti-semite and i think you using that term just because hes critising the Palastine situation is bull. Your motivation is clear and reflects badly IMHO.

On a lighter note
Arse hat is my new favourite insult.
I'll also be dropping "See you in the maggot soup" into a conversation as soon as possible.

[anonymouse]

Wow, I just got on this forum, I didn't expect a landslide of anti-semitic jibberish and America hatred. Geez. Doesn't anyone moderate these boards??

I am not anti anything, let alone antisemite .... but could some educated person explain to me how a country was invented out of nothing and confiscated palestinian land and subsequently have turned themselves into one of the worlds biggest uncontrolled nuclear powers with 100% of the support of the US?

It has recently seemed a little bizarre to me that there is an Israel, and in my limited knowledge, it is because one religion claims it to be so based on the texts that that religion bases itself on. Just as Islam claims other territory, be it moral or geographical.

I am not anti-jew, nor am I anti-romany, but if romanies decided they wanted to take a chunk of any sovereign nation, I am sure there would be uproar. So how did Israel establish itself as a nation out of nothing, and on someone else's lands?

Not only that, why does America aggressively defend this? Butchery of Arabs is a cheap price in order to maintain Israel. I DO NOT KNOW WHY!!!

Seriously, anyone have the answer to this puzzle?

[MrYellow]

As with most things it's a big combo of things.....

Feelings of Holocaust guilt.... It's not really shown in the history books
anymore, they blame it all on one person (Hitler) however the whole world
fell into the trap of hating Jews for no good reason..... So giving them
somewhere to live is like a sorry note....

Also if anyone ever says anything bad they are (within minutes) called an
anti-semite.... So at key points in history things have been done without
any backlash for fear of being labeled anti-semitic.

Probably for some it's a matter of giving them a place to live.... So they
leave X country......

Depends on who you ask.... Just like gulf war, it's not the oil, not the
power, no the muslims.... It's all of the above and much more. Everyone
who had a say had their say for different reasons.

One thing I know for sure..... When the Australian Light Horse performed
one of the greatest cavalry charges in history to free Jerusalem from the
Ottoman empire they were cheered on by Arabs and Jews alike.....

The first foreign army in the history of Israel to take Jerusalem only to give
it back, giving freedom to the people, and not taking it for themselves.
Pitty now those people are fighting..... 800 Aussies succeeded where
50,000 British had failed. Once again Aussie blood spilt for nothing.

-Ben

[anonymouse]

As with most things it's a big combo of things.....

Feelings of Holocaust guilt.... It's not really shown in the history books
anymore, they blame it all on one person (Hitler) however the whole world
fell into the trap of hating Jews for no good reason..... So giving them
somewhere to live is like a sorry note....

Who knows what world perception really was back then, given the propagandist manipulation we see these days.

Also if anyone ever says anything bad they are (within minutes) called an
anti-semite.... So at key points in history things have been done without
any backlash for fear of being labeled anti-semitic.

seemingly other minorities don't get that sort of recognition

Probably for some it's a matter of giving them a place to live.... So they
leave X country......

How generous of the Palestinians to donate their lands

Depends on who you ask.... Just like gulf war, it's not the oil, not the
power, no the muslims.... It's all of the above and much more. Everyone
who had a say had their say for different reasons.

not some evil genius pulling the strings?

One thing I know for sure..... When the Australian Light Horse performed
one of the greatest cavalry charges in history to free Jerusalem from the
Ottoman empire they were cheered on by Arabs and Jews alike.....

The first foreign army in the history of Israel to take Jerusalem only to give
it back, giving freedom to the people, and not taking it for themselves.
Pitty now those people are fighting..... 800 Aussies succeeded where
50,000 British had failed. Once again Aussie blood spilt for nothing.

-Ben

seriously, why were the aussies fighting this war?

[MrYellow]

Our troops were volunteers.....
It's kinda similar to why US blacks were fighting in WWII/Vietnam.....

We were proving that we were just as good as everyone else and deserved
recognition..... Which is a good part of why the ANZAC spirt was so strong....

See for most of WWI we were fighting under British command.... Same with
NZ.... We'd be pushed into impossible situations.... used as fodder..... but
time and time again we'd succeed and prove that we were some of the best
fighting men in the world. Which eventually led to us getting our own
General. ANZACs and Canadians were at the front of every major battle....
While British were held behind in reserve most of the time.

See..... Israel was reconised after that battle.... but so was Australia.

Australia became a real nation in WWI, not just on paper but in the minds
of those that saw us fight.

http://www.lighthorse.org.au/histbatt/beersheba.htm

Unfortunately we continued to be used as fodder..... So now-a-days we only
send special forces (SAS).... Who are recognised as the best SF in the
world. So they never get used as fodder. (altho we still do end up in tuff
situations, we were in Iraq 2 weeks before anyone else, and same in
Afghanistan where we got caught up in some big battles straight up)

-Ben

[computo]

I am not anti anything, let alone antisemite .... but could some educated person explain to me how a country was invented out of nothing and confiscated palestinian land and subsequently have turned themselves into one of the worlds biggest uncontrolled nuclear powers with 100% of the support of the US?

It has recently seemed a little bizarre to me that there is an Israel, and in my limited knowledge, it is because one religion claims it to be so based on the texts that that religion bases itself on. Just as Islam claims other territory, be it moral or geographical.

I am not anti-jew, nor am I anti-romany, but if romanies decided they wanted to take a chunk of any sovereign nation, I am sure there would be uproar. So how did Israel establish itself as a nation out of nothing, and on someone else's lands?

Not only that, why does America aggressively defend this? Butchery of Arabs is a cheap price in order to maintain Israel. I DO NOT KNOW WHY!!!

Seriously, anyone have the answer to this puzzle?

The answer lies with Offender and his kock-in-mouth belief, that he and his leash-carriers are bringing about their own salvation.

Gotta be the craziest religious belief since people thinking they were the "chosen" people. OOPS, now Im offending EVERYBODY. Sorry, ALL of the major religions are cheap facades.

[trash]

Wow, I just got on this forum, I didn't expect a landslide of anti-semitic jibberish and America hatred. Geez. Doesn't anyone moderate these boards??

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v25/n16/butl02_.html

[/unscrews head slightly]
listen arse hat...
ill see you in the maggot stew sometime... hehe

standard transparent ideological warfare tactic no#1:
any ciristism of israels attempted genocide of 'two legged beasts' (see fateful triangle - chomsky) is immediately called 'anti-semitic'
there is no difference in these peoples minds between criticising a government and criticising an entire race. its utterly bizarre, but the mindset is created by the media and ignorance as we advanced humans know.
there is a very good reason for this.....
americas client as chomsky calls israel is a nice little proxy guard over the middle east and mostly does americas bidding..
without americas HUGE financial help.. HUGE i mean!!
they would have been fucked...
there isnt much natural resource to plunder around there...
how a race which has been abused so badly can allow itself to become such a nuclear and military power seems contradicitory. you would think they would want to calm down on the killing a bit after what they had been through. but then, thats what capitalism is based on. without wars and weapon sales, capitalism is WORTHLESS!!!
its accompanying luxuries; cars, drinks , media, drugs, sport etc, all the things to make you forget who is dying to continue your comfortable lifestyle are not fooling me.
there is no illumunati in some secret room planning all this out.
its all internalised. its seeped into the fabric of where we live.
capitalism has failed.
lets move on.

later..

[trash]

I am not anti anything, let alone antisemite .... but could some educated person explain to me how a country was invented out of nothing and confiscated palestinian land and subsequently have turned themselves into one of the worlds biggest uncontrolled nuclear powers with 100% of the support of the US?

errr.. its not uncontrolled
america control it quite nicely...

[anonymouse]

thanks MrYellow ... interesting reading.

[12micsn1]

Slave 2 A Shit System-Some bullshit to read

Why is it referred to as the "Land of the free" ?
Land of the lack of human rights more like...great service though
You can't even take a walk up the street without going to jail 4 it...
and if you try to cross it without asking first then you have to pay a fine!!
Two words "Hitlers Germany"
Three Words "New World Order"

I feel a little bad for peaceful people who had to put up with that bullshit but at the end of the day trash already said it there are far worse crimes happening all the time. I wonder if the same laws now apply to the Iraqi ravers, that would suck ass. I think i'll shut up now.

Peace
The UK is good...I like it here. Its not THE land of the free but its pretty reasonable.

Land of the Free was the phrase given to the free world when it was discovered because of the vast opportunities it offered to those who landed here. The phrase "Land of the free" has changed over time but what it means now is protecting those freedoms with restrictions. You cant have everything for free but you do appreciate the the things that remain free. Outside forces that continue to invade society in the US are slowly takening away what the phrase "Land of the Free" really means now. Til those promblems are seriously fixed the phrase might become "The not so land of the free anymore". Then all hell will break loose to those who are the problem.

[12micsn1]

I am not anti anything, let alone antisemite .... but could some educated person explain to me how a country was invented out of nothing and confiscated palestinian land and subsequently have turned themselves into one of the worlds biggest uncontrolled nuclear powers with 100% of the support of the US?

errr.. its not uncontrolled
america control it quite nicely...

Trash, I agree you need some history education in your life instead of ranting long and hard. You will find the answer to your many questions through self education.

[mosca]

Who are recognised as the best SF in the
world.

i would disagree with that, you're all trained by the UK SAS

[MrYellow]

Who are recognised as the best SF in the
world.

i would disagree with that, you're all trained by the UK SAS

um no...... Aussie SAS is it's own thing with it's own training.... We stopped
being a division of the UK military many, many, many years ago.

The UK SAS bag us tho cause we still don't salute them.

edit: btw Aussies formed the first ever "commando" units (a Dutch word)
during the Bore War..... Then a British court-martial sentenced them to
death by firing squad for doing the kind of actions that are now a major
part of SF missions.

"On average, of the over 300 men who commence each selection course,
only six will make it to the end of 18 months of reinforcement courses."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian ... e_Regiment

-Ben