That, too, of course. I just wanted to play clips in banks, myself, but they could have included this functionality as well. Easily.ivory_13 wrote:
I have owned one for 2 hours and have embarrassingly assumed the controller would have a 'note player' scene or function that would enable you to play instrumentation. Very disappointing.
Bomes can do it too.electrofux2007 wrote:To get a response on the Akai whether a button is on or off you need some form of bidirectional connection between Live and the Akai. Live needs to send the correct Note Off messages to the Akai. An editor wouldnt really help because this doesnt make Live send anything. Having the buttons behave like toggles wouldnt help either as the buttons wouldnt know the state of your current session on their own. You need an individual Midi Remote Script that does what you want. That is pretty much the same as with the Launchpad or any other unit that has lights. (only that the Launchpads specificatione seems to be more open).
Yes, bomes can light up your buttons, in fact any Midi Software can do that because whenever the right Midi command is sent to the Akai it reacts on it. But in order to have it work consistenly, meaning you plug in the Akai (everything is not lit up), start up your last Live Set and everything lights up as you left it last time, you need a Midi Remote Script. Bome doesnt help in that case as it doesnt receive any information from live via the standard Midi Maping.TomViolenz wrote:Bomes can do it too.electrofux2007 wrote:To get a response on the Akai whether a button is on or off you need some form of bidirectional connection between Live and the Akai. Live needs to send the correct Note Off messages to the Akai. An editor wouldnt really help because this doesnt make Live send anything. Having the buttons behave like toggles wouldnt help either as the buttons wouldnt know the state of your current session on their own. You need an individual Midi Remote Script that does what you want. That is pretty much the same as with the Launchpad or any other unit that has lights. (only that the Launchpads specificatione seems to be more open).
And no it's not the same as with the Launchpad, since Automap takes care of the light feedback and toggle/gate/trigger selection on the Launchpad.
Also be warned! if you use the midi out channel of the APC Mini, for instance to route it to Bomes in order to implement light update and have a sufficiently complex set, Live goes haywire. Constantly trying to initialize the Midi ports. Which in effect makes Live unusable.
In principle it's not so difficult to implement light feedback (if you own Bomes MT, like I do) but the Midi interface in that thing seems to be fucked up.
And that is from factory, so probably in all of them, since I have tried two different ones with the same result.
The thread title is certainly chosen aptly!
That is true, but really since the thing has a messed up Midi interface anyways the point is mute.electrofux2007 wrote:Yes, bomes can do can light up your buttons, in fact any Midi Software can do that because whenever the right Midi command is sent to the Akai it reacts on it. But in order to have it work consistenly, meaning you plug in the Akai (everything is not lit up), start up your last Live Set and everything lights up as you left it last time, you need a Midi Remote Script. Bome doesnt help in that case as it doesnt receive any information from live via the standard Midi Maping.TomViolenz wrote:Bomes can do it too.electrofux2007 wrote:To get a response on the Akai whether a button is on or off you need some form of bidirectional connection between Live and the Akai. Live needs to send the correct Note Off messages to the Akai. An editor wouldnt really help because this doesnt make Live send anything. Having the buttons behave like toggles wouldnt help either as the buttons wouldnt know the state of your current session on their own. You need an individual Midi Remote Script that does what you want. That is pretty much the same as with the Launchpad or any other unit that has lights. (only that the Launchpads specificatione seems to be more open).
And no it's not the same as with the Launchpad, since Automap takes care of the light feedback and toggle/gate/trigger selection on the Launchpad.
Also be warned! if you use the midi out channel of the APC Mini, for instance to route it to Bomes in order to implement light update and have a sufficiently complex set, Live goes haywire. Constantly trying to initialize the Midi ports. Which in effect makes Live unusable.
In principle it's not so difficult to implement light feedback (if you own Bomes MT, like I do) but the Midi interface in that thing seems to be fucked up.
And that is from factory, so probably in all of them, since I have tried two different ones with the same result.
The thread title is certainly chosen aptly!
I always just used the Midi monitor capability from Bomes, but that is obviously not sufficient to see these kinda issues. I'm on OSX, any suggestions for a (free) Midi monitor on Mac?!electrofux2007 wrote:It sounds either like the Midi Interface is in fact fubarred or some Midi Loop is still lurking around somewhere. What makes me wonder is that it shouldnt make any difference how many mappings you have made because they are all inbound (meaning going into live) and the akai only acts as a sender when you press anything (leaving out any bomes setup here), so a potential overflow shouldn't happen. I would plug a Midi Monitor between the Akais Midi ports and observe what is happening here. Are you on a PC? Then check out Midi OX which helped me alot on similar issues. Monitor what is coming from Live through the Out ports that makes the system go haywire (there shouldnt actually come anything out if i am right).
I would take the Akai to someone with the latest OS and check if it works better there before changing anything.TomViolenz wrote:Hm, the program says I have an old Midi driver, so it can't listen to programs. (only devices)
I'm still on Mavericks so that may be it. But I'm a little hesitant to exchange that driver only for that. Who knows what that might break
I'm pretty happy with my set-up, even if the lights only update on the APC Mini because I let Bomes update them when I press a button (so no updates as the Midi is playing back), breaking this set up for something like that would REALLY suck.
What'd you guys think, is just updating the OSX Midi driver without risk?!