Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

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mattattack
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Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by mattattack » Fri May 08, 2015 12:16 am

Having a problem where anything I automate (Using the Configure on the plugin to add parameters) is popping up the Re-Enable Automation button and bypassing my automation as soon as playback in Ableton hits the tracks clip. Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? :(

Steve Glen
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by Steve Glen » Fri May 08, 2015 1:05 am

Could try mapping the parameter to a macro, then automating the macro. That might trick ableton and sylenth into working.

If you have a mac, you could try au or vst, whichwver one you are not using

pinkpaint
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by pinkpaint » Fri May 08, 2015 4:28 am

try clicking the little plus to the right of play?

TheCoil
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by TheCoil » Sat May 09, 2015 8:43 pm

Sylenth automation can be weird in Live, sometimes when you automate the pitch, for instance a pitch bend, it won't return to the original pitch, even if your automation is correct, it will stay in the bent down or up position.

Steve Glen
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by Steve Glen » Sun May 10, 2015 1:10 am

Is the parameter modulated by an envelope or an lfo within sylenth? this might cause abketon to think the hser adjjsted the parameter and will unhinge the parameter from automation control. A possible solution might bd instead automate a modulator that modulates something else. Obviously not ideal, this is a bug, but those are some pitential workarounds.

Curious, 32 or 64 ableton?

mattattack
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by mattattack » Tue May 12, 2015 2:52 am

Arrangement Overdub (the little +) doesn't change anything, it's still popping the Re-Enable, and the problem isn't that the automations aren't going back from where-ever I'm sending them, it's that Ableton keeps refusing to use them unless I click the newly popped Re-Enable button at the start of playback.

The automation is mapped to a Mod Envelope wheel (Cutoff AB in most cases), and it's 32 bit Sylenth, in 32 bit Ableton.

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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by mattattack » Sun May 17, 2015 4:51 am

Bump.

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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by mattattack » Sun May 17, 2015 3:02 pm

Problem solved. I went ahead and rolled with the idea of mapping Sylenths parameters to some Instrument Rack macros and automate the Macros. It's not the most efficient setup for workflow, but it's a solid fix and it's useful for future MIDI control setup!

beame
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by beame » Sun May 20, 2018 3:31 am

I've spent the last 2 days trying to find an answer to this issue and I have found a solution of what seems to be the root of the problem.

The symptoms have always leaned towards the clip for some reason overriding the automation set in the arrangement.

What I found, was that the clips that were causing this had a Pgm Change specified. In my case it was PGM 3. Once I delete this and put it back to NIL it stopped overriding my arrangements automations.

You can download a screenshot here of what I am talking about

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g433p8iber5t9 ... n.png?dl=0

I hope this helps :D

Just/S
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by Just/S » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:00 pm

I'm experiencing the same issue now,if any one has a solution,please let me know. Thank you

bxn
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Re: Problems with automation between Ableton and Sylenth

Post by bxn » Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:56 pm

@beame you're a rock star 8)

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