Sound Mangling - Fennesz

[analogueboy]

I have belatedly discovered Christian Fennesz and I wondered if I needed to learn a programming language to produce that level of sound mangling from a guitar? I know puredata and sonic birth are free but I have never done any kind of programming. Do I need to try and learn for such an extreme sound processing approach and, if so, what is teh easiest free Mac software to use for a complete novice?

[Gregory Wells-King]

I looked him up, played Endless Summer, A bit too much for my prefered blend of music V sound design, However I can't hear anything amazing just plenty of effects chained together, some of which are modualted most of which are set to the full wet and then he seems to play with a dry wet/side chain of effect. He also has used automation envelopes to empahasize his playing at times.

To be honest, it's obvious to me, he's played straight with little effect maybe some verb or mild delay, looped what he's got, then played with the effects in chains to get strange results.

If I was going to reach in my pocket for something unusual, I would go for maybe Molekular form Native Instruments http://www.native-instruments.com/en/pr ... molekular/ or Kaleidoscope from 2C Audio http://www.2caudio.com/products/kaleidoscope.

But for my money, just sit and play with bunches of racks in Ableton, No programming required.

[analogueboy]

Thanks ever so much. I read about his use of Max/MSP and just assumed that was the only realistic way. I guess experimenting with grain delay might be my next step.

[Gregory Wells-King]

Thanks ever so much. I read about his use of Max/MSP and just assumed that was the only realistic way. I guess experimenting with grain delay might be my next step.

seriously a good choice, after years tinkering with Reaktor and then crossing over too Max, I realized that most of the time, the effects and such within the devices that people build, are pretty much stock in Ableton, just with interesting UI's that sometimes help to take short cuts to sounds you like, there is a place for this, and that's workflow. But from a sound perspective most DAW's have it covered with in built devices.

Max's biggest draw for me, is it's API devices, and tight intergration with Ableton.