New Novation's Product

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by oddstep » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:31 pm

Why was the mc09 discontinued!? The concept is fantastic.

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:13 am

oddstep wrote:Why was the mc09 discontinued!? The concept is fantastic.
Because it was considered a failure back then, just like the TB-303 :)

Some people like the tone of the TB-303 emulation, not as an accurate emulation but as it's own signature sound.

They should produce more cheap "innovative" audio toys, with character :idea:
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by timday » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:30 pm

S4racen wrote:
timday wrote:I know it works as a MIDI controller on top of the synth stuff but does it also work as a Launchpad? Because if so I'm gong to get one of these instead of a Launchpad Pro.
Currently no it doesn't work as an Ableton specific controller... basically it doesn't have a session mode...

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tbh I guess if it did nobody would bother getting a LP pro.

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by timday » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:34 pm

Tarekith wrote: The Octatrack has the potential to be the best groovebox ever, but again it has a unique workflow that you either bond with or don't. I've been personally considering getting another for awhile now, but I alway hesitate at the last second. :) It can do a LOT, but it means a lot of mental hoops figuring out how you want to organize things and what you're trying to do.
I hear you.

I got an analog keys recently, love it as a synth, the sequencing is fantastic, but the save structure is insanely counterintuitive. Think I have it figured out now but I have never spent so long on simply where my stuff is, why sounds don't automatically load with songs, etc.

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:55 am

The more I'm following the current hardware development, the more I'm impressed of how good it was back then.

These two were made in 1998:
SU700: https://youtu.be/d6_dfr6u8k4

SP-808: https://youtu.be/bIWmxiuCt6k

They sound like the real deal, with a great hands-on interface and can be had for cheap on e-bay. May be one day I'll get a SCSI card reader and one of those.
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by Tarekith » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:26 am

I used the SP808 a LOT back when it came out, it was a core part of my live set up for years. In a lot of ways it was the OT of the times, lots of limitations but way more capable than you'd think on paper. Wasn't all roses though, ZIP drives were a PITA, and if I remember right songs could only be 4 minutes long if you used all 4 tracks. Taught me a lot about commiting to something, bouncing it down, and just moving on when you had to though.

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:01 pm

Tarekith wrote:I used the SP808 a LOT back when it came out, it was a core part of my live set up for years.
Sounds like you're having a great time with it. I own the RS7K and MC-909, thinking to have the same excitement as using both samplers. While both are great instruments, but never as hands-on or spontaneous when dealing with samples. My concern is also about storage, and the SCSI to card is not cheap, unless I planned to go back to use old samplers. Still thinking about the S series sampler sometime, for their early Roland character. But again, the storage and interface still holding me back.

I wonder if they're going to develop the concept for future release, something like the SP-909 or SU-800. Using great converter and electronic components, for that authentic sound of a great sampler in both Hi/Low resolution (8/12/16/24 bit). Interactive interface with knobs, sliders and ribbon. But with a decent storage and touchscreen interface, in a portable form with rechargeable battery. This is what I'm expecting when watching all the "Start Something" teasers.

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Just saw a teaser of something new from Akai, not sure if it's real or not. Looks very interesting, but seems like on the pricey side.
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by Tarekith » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:54 pm

That's supposedly the new Touch MPC, though I heard it's only a controller for the software, you still need a computer supposedly. I think details are dropping tomorrow, so we'll know more then.

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:10 pm

If it's just a controller with a small touch screen, I believe that something like the new Surface Pro 4 plus a regular pad controller is going to be more powerful as a portable workstation.
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:16 pm

The MPC Touch is a controller, confirmed https://youtu.be/_3UfVaeU44g

Could've been interesting before Bitwig 1.3 release
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by yur2die4 » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:18 pm

They should fire the guy who keeps painting black squares on their pads. Unless it has some kind of specific functionality??

I know akai is very popular, so they can take a few risks. But I feel like they keep coming out with products which seem like large leaps on paper, but are Meh in practice.

Edit: I might take most of this back. I imagine the black rubber, not paint, on the pads is to reduce competing light for the screen. The device has a built in audio interface. And possibly the screen might be able to be an 'extension'. That could be very interesting. I wonder how it works on an apple computer (with their lack of 'touch' support) haha

I hope it has a hidden etch a sketch mode

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by crystalmsc » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:45 am

I prefer something hands-on like the Circuit, paired with a decent sampling/sequencer iPad app compared to that. Novation talked about a software for the Circuit, hopefully something that will make it a complete portable workstation. Specially since they have a mature Launchpad app already.
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by Grappadura » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:13 pm

Bought the octatrack. Im in demo mode now and alreadymaking sounds i never heard before. I wont be using the computer for some time now i guess. Im very happy with the purchase.
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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by Tarekith » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:14 am

I'm really wanting to try the Circuit before I dive back into OT land myself, but no one here in middle EU has any in stock or will for another month it looks like :(

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Re: New Novation's Product

Post by yur2die4 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:14 pm

I feel like I've overlooked what the specs are, and can't seem to grasp what is available in the realm of synth parameters, and drum parameters.

How much control does a person really feel like they have over the sound of the synths, and the drums? Number of oscs, waveforms, osc to osc interaction, filter types, and modulation possibilities? Did I overlook that in the details?

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