{OT} New Orleans Vs. Iraq

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Post by noisetonepause » Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:23 am

The Offender wrote:typical of a muzzie sympathizer, is the white man the devil to, u might as well say so because u have no respect for your white heritage? white culture has disintigrated into what it is because of weak people such as yourself, not like u care though, its easier just being part of liberal hype, and learn a little bit about another culture and all of a sudden u r 1 of them? u r soooooo fake, it is funny.
Amusing spelling mistake there... the white man has in fact been the devil to a lot of people over the years.

What makes you think I'm white? And what does white culture mean, anyways? Russian? French? How much do you honestly think you have in common with someone who grew up in a social-democratic Scandinvia constitutional monarychy?

As for my heritage (whatever colour it might be), I would not say that I am ignoring it or disrespecting it. I'm just accepting the fact that I'm not limited to where I come from either, as I, like everyone else, am moving. It doesn't bother me or scare me much at all... I call it life, it fascinates me. Cultures change, always have, always will. You're deluding yourself if think that anything's solid.

Anyways, why's you still breathing my oxygene, wanksocks?

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Post by Winterpark » Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:34 am

The Offender wrote: and i would not trust any single one of u. none of u r good people.

you have nothing better to do with your life than...

a/ write absolute bullshit on this forum for no other reason but to annoy people..

or....

b/ are really some deluded racist deadshit who actually believes what you are writing.


either way.... you are a really sad, lonely and scared person aren't you?

maybe you could leave your computer, and go and talk to people... find out that people really aren't that bad.

just a thought.... maybe you should have one that isn't about yourself every now and then.
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Post by computo » Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:48 am

Keep in mind, no one is against war. Just against unnecessary and unjust war.

And it is becoming increasingly apparent, that scum like you are inherently responsible for these kinds of war. You and your kind are the reason why we have the reputation we do in the international community.

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Post by computo » Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:49 am

Offender couldnt go outside and talk to anyone. He would sacrfice the one thing that enables him to say the things he does: Anonymity.

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Post by The Offender » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:32 am

computo wrote:You and your kind are the reason why we have the reputation we do in the international community.
exactly what is me and my kind? and who r u and what is your reputation in the international community?

to u i'm racist, i'm nazi, i'm not tolerant to multiculturism, or alternative lifestlyes, to u, i am these things. ok. and people like me. ok but who does that entail? whie american conservatives? kkk? nazis? neocons? zionists both jew & christan? muslim fundamentalists (who by the way love hitler)? african dictators? c'mon tell me.

reputation in the international community? tell me what country does not have a murderous history? who can judge themselves as better than us, and by what what standard? we have helped the world alot more than we have helped ourselves and that is the real problem here. n.o. is a perfect example of that. yet we have always been hated, people have been burning our flag much for longer than we have been at war. the reputation does not sit well with U, and others in the world, but there r many in the world that agree with the usa as well.

so what is your point?

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Post by The Offender » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:42 am

noisetonepause wrote: Amusing spelling mistake there... the white man has in fact been the devil to a lot of people over the years.

What makes you think I'm white? And what does white culture mean, anyways? Russian? French? How much do you honestly think you have in common with someone who grew up in a social-democratic Scandinvia constitutional monarychy?

As for my heritage (whatever colour it might be), I would not say that I am ignoring it or disrespecting it. I'm just accepting the fact that I'm not limited to where I come from either, as I, like everyone else, am moving. It doesn't bother me or scare me much at all... I call it life, it fascinates me. Cultures change, always have, always will. You're deluding yourself if think that anything's solid.

Anyways, why's you still breathing my oxygene, wanksocks?
seeing as u r so into learning about things and rescearching life and not limiting yourself. learn your true history first. fucking slav.

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Post by elemental » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:28 am

@ Offender:

why do u come on this forum spreading your fear and negativity?

are you genuine? or are you just a wind up?
either way you obviously have a lot of issues to deal with.

you claim to speak the truth ... but you talk about the truth as it is within your world view. you put your story to what you see and experience and call it the truth. sorry, but thats bullshit.

do you have any love for your fellow human beings? or are you too much of a badman? or just a selfish twat?

the world is getting more fucked by the day. we dont need any more fear and bullshit.

FIX UP!!

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Post by 12micsn1 » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:49 am

djadonis206 wrote:
djadonis206 wrote:
shredded wrote:My final post is that I feel and always have that the US government was built on a foundation of RACISM that still continues to hold up all of our institutions. Look at the percentage of caucaian vs.African Americans in Senate, Congress, judiciary, etc. etc. etc. What is the percentage of African Americans in poverty? in Prison? With AIDS? With untreated mental illness, drug addiction. The facts are there. The seeds that planted this "great nation" were racism, slavery, oppression of the poor. etc. etc. ESPECIALLY in the South, and this attitude remains!!! They definitely could have reinforced those levees, are you kidding me???? I WONDER WHY THEY DIDN'T? Now ask yourself, if New Orleans was a predominantly white affluent city, would they have done more before the storm hit??????????????? I'm not saying that they deliberately didn't do anything, I'm just saying that when dealing with problems affecting the poor they are usually too little too late because THEY JUST DON"T GIVE A SHIT.



It's called institutionalized racism - depending on which side of the color line you're on, you might see it / feel it more than the next guy.


Not that we are not doing our best to help the displaced and hopeless but it is hard not to notice every photo on cnn.com msn.com are of poor black people


ask yourself this question, if that was 10's of 1000's of displaced and hopeless white people would the government try just little bit harder?

but we wouldn't know that because a hurricane probably won't be wipping through Utah anytime soon :)

But really, it's more of an economic thing than a black or white thing - just so happens the majority of poor people in NOLA are black!


let's just hope our government is doing it's best...we're kind of depending on them right now

unless we're all going to create a emergency response militia and go down there help out ~


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Post by The Offender » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:52 am

elemental wrote:@ Offender:

why do u come on this forum spreading your fear and negativity?

are you genuine? or are you just a wind up?
either way you obviously have a lot of issues to deal with.

you claim to speak the truth ... but you talk about the truth as it is within your world view. you put your story to what you see and experience and call it the truth. sorry, but thats bullshit.

do you have any love for your fellow human beings? or are you too much of a badman? or just a selfish twat?

the world is getting more fucked by the day. we dont need any more fear and bullshit.

FIX UP!!
dont take it personally, i hate the whole world, myself included. i lost all faith in humanity and everything. so what? thats the world, right? it dont matter what i say in this world because everyone is out for themselves when it comes down to it. one thing ive learned is that everyone is on the same side, and that side is their own. i hate the world like that, so i would rather contribute to its destruction, so i can die quicker and b free of the pain of life. there is nothing to fix up. this is the way it is. it is an offensive world so i will offend everyone. give me a different game to play and i will play it. dont hate the player hate the game.

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Post by Komplex » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:17 am

The Offender - Can you post something funny and offensive towards me? I could use a laugh. Bit of material for you to use. I was born in Poland, in Malbork. Migrated to Melbourne. I'm white, even pale some would say and I like to wear jeans. I also like techno and I don't like junkies. I'm not religous.

Do your best :) this will be funny :)

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Post by claudek » Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:54 am

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp ... 1001051313
Found this on another forum and seems really what this topic is about:
Actually the war in Iraq had a direct effect on the funding SELA (the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project). Since 2003 funding by the federal government for this project was reduced to almost nothing. Here is a segment of an article that talks about this. The whole article can be found here: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp ... 1001051313

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: "No one can say they didn't see it coming. ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."


In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

Also that June, with the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps' project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:

"The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don't get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can't stay ahead of the settlement," he said. "The problem that we have isn't that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can't raise them."

The panel authorized that money, and on July 1, 2004, it had to pony up another $250,000 when it learned that stretches of the levee in Metairie had sunk by four feet. The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes. The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain.

The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs.

There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:

"That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount. But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said."

The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it's too late.
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Post by trash » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:36 am

As usual, Offender, you a talking out of your dildo-ravaged ass.
hehehehhe

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Post by trash » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:38 am

The Offender wrote:i hate the world like that, so i would rather contribute to its destruction, so i can die quicker and b free of the pain of life
a noble cause sir!
why not just kill yourself now and do us all a favour?
:lol:

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Post by astaplatz » Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:47 am

:idea:

when someone posts - and you feel hate, the best thing you can do is ignore it so that regular conversation can continue. Let the person's words be said, and be done with it.

if everyone keeps replying to posts frompeople and escalates things, interesting posts disapear and nobody reads, and no body listens anymore - meaning that all the things that were said, that might have been interesting, are then lost.

Anyways, just a thought in flame-war-101.

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