just bought 50 songs from itunes and......

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:10 am

i cant even use them in ableton i will never use itunes again. back to limewire,they suck

popsicko · Post by **popsicko** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:26 am

I don't understand your problem? Are they broken? Oh, they use a protected format. Eek! That's a $50 lesson. Does Limewire sell music or is just a place to steal it? I'm not familiar with it.
I believe that Apple is clear as to what you are buying so, it's not their fault. I refuse to buy most things from them 'cuz I like owning the artwork and being able to do with it what I want. You could try converting the files to MP3 or .Wav. Won't be the best quality, but if you are just gonna DJ them thru a PA it won't matter. Give it a try. Sorry, you didn't get what you expected, hopefully you got some cool tunes.
best,
-b

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:40 am

you cant convert them.i guess they are protected

echo871 · Post by **echo871** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:26 am

iTunes uses a protected format that can only be played through iTunes on up to 5 computers, and is mainly geared towards to the general music consumer. The benefit is that royalties get paid to whomever needs to get them rather than stealing them via limewire. (Please do not start a debate on the whole file sharing thing)

The best solution and what i do is to burn your songs on a CD in "Audio CD" format, then re-import them as MP3s or AIFF (your preference will apply here)

Regards,
E

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:43 am

isn't the best solution to buy them on cd in the first place? MP3 sounds horrible.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:51 am

Martyn wrote:isn't the best solution to buy them on cd in the first place? MP3 sounds horrible.

they dont use MP3, they use AAC

john - you could also try soundflower if you're on mac and pipe them into live that way and record them as you play them. Buit the CD idea would be quicker.

RobStrobe · Post by **RobStrobe** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:00 am

common...ever heard of full duplex???for what do buy soundcards for a couple of hundred dollar/euro/yen???don´t be so foolish...

GET BACK TO THE OLD DAYS AND SAMPLE WHAT YOU WANNA USE!!!!!!!!!!!

what a pitty that ableton is so kind and gives us mp3....

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:23 am

You can also drag the files into iMovie and export them; you'll be free to use them anywhere after you do that.

I find it really disgusting that Apple have to use their own proprietary format for the Store; I think the customer should be given a choice.

One of the best on-line music stores is www.bleep.com; some files are even available in Flac.

And yes, Limewire is a stealing platform, but at least you can choose what you want..... and buy the product later if you like it (Martyn: I agree some mp3s sound horrible, but from 192kbit upwards it's ok.... and Apple claim their 128kbit AAC is superior to mp3)

R.

RobStrobe · Post by **RobStrobe** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:28 am

cool...and we´re making music for 50 cent each download...

=)

great....

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:28 am

Open iTunes. Record into Live with Soundflower. It's that easy.

Most of my Live playlist comes from the iTunes Music Store. I challenge anyone to listen critically to an iTunes AAC file and compare it to the original AIFF on studio monitors, let alone on a PA system.

Check out www.allofmp3.com. It's awesome, cost a fraction of the iTunes Music Store, and you can choose one of many download formats.

Polyphonic · Post by **Polyphonic** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:40 am

Alternatively, carry on using iTunes and just convert them.

What? You say they are protected? And? You can STILL convert them - it's amazing what Google throws up, isn't it?

http://hymn-project.org/

This program removes the protection. Then, use another program to convert to MP3 or any other file format of your choice. Use Google to find a program to do that.

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:52 am

hambone1 wrote:Open iTunes. Record into Live with Soundflower. It's that easy.

Most of my Live playlist comes from the iTunes Music Store. I challenge anyone to listen critically to an iTunes AAC file and compare it to the original AIFF on studio monitors, let alone on a PA system.

Check out www.allofmp3.com. It's awesome, cost a fraction of the iTunes Music Store, and you can choose one of many download formats.

Would you say AAC is on par with CD quality?

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:04 am

It's all relative to the original recording's quality, but even high dynamic range, large frequency band songs seem full and clear without the phasing that plagues inferior compression schemes and settings. Same with 320kb MP3s from allofmp3.com. They're superb. Maybe on an oscilloscope not as good as the original CD, but I don't think anyone will be bringing one, or a 20KHz+ bat or dog for that matter, to my performances.

If I spent all of my time comparing and constrasting this and that formats, I wouldn't get anything done. Apple's AACs and allofmp3.com's 320kbps MP3s sound great to me and I personally see no further need to waste time splitting hairs!

gaspode · Post by **gaspode** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:47 pm

Dude... here is what you do, and this is *not* hard and isn't a difficult work-a-round...

Burn your tracks to multiple CDs... iTunes will remember what all the track info is for those CDs...

In preferences tell it that when you rip a cd you want it to do it as an MP3 and not an AAC... set the bitrate to whatever you want (supposedly AAC is a bit better than MP3, so you might want the bitrate to be the next level higher than your AAC files were saved on your system as).

Then just rip those files... now they have all the track info and file names and everything you need without too much more work.

Personally I'd say iTunes isn't really that bad if you want tracks... especially since how many albums come out with a load of crap and only 1-2 good tracks... maybe 3 if you're lucky. So for those 50 tracks that cost you $50 on itunes, you'd have to spend probably $300+ just to get the same tracks in conventional cd format, and I'm probably being generous.

Good Luck man,

Greg

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:57 pm

thanks guys.itried soundflower and that seems to work awesome.just a little time consuming thats all.i will try burning them to a cd