Why do 'fixed length' recordings start recording immediately

[stratblue]

Hi All

If I press the record button on the Push1 Live drops in and starts recording on the next 1st beat, as expected, then I hit the record button again and it drops out on the next beat 1, no problem, but if I enable 'fixed length', Live drops in and starts recording immediately at whatever beat and bar it is at, of the 16 bar loop, so If I have a fixed length of 16 bars chosen I have to wait until the correct point comes around (32 bars seems like a f*cking eternity!), or start playing at, say beat 3 in bar 5 of 16. The place Live thinks it is at in the 16 bar loop is only revealed to me once I have pressed record, the chances of me keeping track of this whilst jamming and other stuff is slim to none. I expected Live to start recording at the next beat 1 and finish recording after 16 bars, then play what I have just recorded, all lined up and in time, have I missed something here? Global quantize is set to 1 bar. Thanks for your help.

[Mr-Bit]

Yeah I was surprised at the implementation of Fixed loop, while I see how it is useful feature in some situations most of the time I want rec to start at next quantization point and rec for x bars. Ableton seem to do this, put weight on the more advanced implementation to detriment of common use scenarios, reminds me of the relative session clip launch way back...Pref option?

[yur2die4]

It is meant to be a single button press for when you're in the middle of playing.

So, if you have a really nice piano line and you don't know if you can hit the Trigger and Repeat at the appropriate times, you can just be playing that line and while playing it trigger fixed length (at any time you want), and it will record what you are playing that moment. It is good if you are playing something continuous.

Earlier it had similar behavior except that when you triggered that clip again later it would be offset (because the moment you triggered it to record, it would choose that as the Start point). Now it at least compensates for that.

I think it might be nice if they had an option for the behavior of this, because I do see how it would be nice to have it Begin recording at the next bar. That'd be handy for audio clips also

[starving student]

next bar would make the most sense, at least give the option.

[stratblue]

it's getting kinda annoying. I use Cubase mostly but I like the idea of Live and I want to use it more, I must have sunk at least a £1000 pounds into it with the different versions and the Push etc and every time I try to move over to it some snag crops up, I remember before it was clips not recording automation, then it was the Push not working in Rewire slave mode and so it goes on. And why o why can't I name inputs!?! Maybe one day it will be the DAW I can use.

[Mr-Bit]

I was a bit disillusioned with Live last year also a friend pestered me to get Cubase 8... last owned was on Atari...1 year later "I'm sorry Ableton" I love Live even more I found Cubase prevaricated, awkward dull and the companies attitude nailed it for me. Meanwhile Ableton seem to be Pushing their socks up.

Employing KISS attitude and working within your systems natural boundaries saves allot of headache I avoid things like:

Rewire
MidiLoop busses
Clyphx
Complicated routing
Stick on solutions
ect..

Keep pressing on live and it will mold to your form eventually. Perhaps it will be the same for me with Cubase but I predict it will only get used if I have to, I want to use Live!

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Is Shift/Fixed length available would choosing modes with the shift button be a good solution?