SideChaining With Volcano

[AnalogSyncer]

My goal is to send a track into Fabfilter Volcano2 and then use a separate Midi file to trigger an envelope in Volcano2.

I have it setup where when I set Sidechain in volcano I hear the audio signal coming in - I also see midi being triggered in Volcano but no sound as soon as I select Output.

Anyone know if this is possible. Super easy in logicx.

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[dented42ford]

Ok, how exactly do you have this set up?

The "sidechain" function of Volcano is just like it is on a compressor - it is made that V2 can "hear" a different track so its internal dynamic processes (envelope triggers/followers and so on) can be affected by a different track than the one it is filtering.

From what I can tell, you are trying to use a midi-sequenced filter sweep, not a "sidechain" in normal engineering parlance. You are "side-chaining" in the "frequency pumping" sense, not the "triggered by a secondary source" sense - and you seem to be getting the two confused!

For what you want to do, the process is pretty simple - and does not use the V2 "sidechain" function!

Put V2 on the track you want to filter. Create a Midi track to trigger V2, and set its output to the track with V2, target "Track X: Volcano 2". Create the triggers, and a modulator in V2 (probably an envelope, but mess around with the modulators) to be triggered. DO NOT engage the "sidechain" function!

That should let you use the midi clip to trigger the V2 modulators, and shouldn't mute the audio. It is actually the same process to use an audio trigger, using the V2 sidechain function - just route that audio track into the V2 sidechain on the filtered track via the "output" selection, and enable "sidechain" in V2.

Hope that helps!

[AnalogSyncer]

Ok, let me try that - here is where the "side chaining" comes in. I did it in Logic and there you use the sidechain to get it to work (track 1 out to a bus1, track 2 using midi controlled Volcano instance with bus1 selected in Sidechain, then play midi on the volcano track to trigger volcano envelope). So I tried to apply the same concept to live.

I'll get back once I have tried it out - thanks for the tip!!

[dented42ford]

Ok, let me try that - here is where the "side chaining" comes in. I did it in Logic and there you use the sidechain to get it to work (track 1 out to a bus1, track 2 using midi controlled Volcano instance with bus1 selected in Sidechain, then play midi on the volcano track to trigger volcano envelope). So I tried to apply the same concept to live.

I'll get back once I have tried it out - thanks for the tip!!

Yeah, that is because the way Logic handles midi-activated audio effects is asinine...
It has some seriously convoluted routing in order to use such effects.

It isn't necessary to use that workaround in any other DAW, including Live. You can just put the effect on the track you want to use the filter on, then route midi to the effect. No need to use the "sidechain as actual audio chain" thing like in Logic.

[AnalogSyncer]

Ok, let me try that - here is where the "side chaining" comes in. I did it in Logic and there you use the sidechain to get it to work (track 1 out to a bus1, track 2 using midi controlled Volcano instance with bus1 selected in Sidechain, then play midi on the volcano track to trigger volcano envelope). So I tried to apply the same concept to live.

I'll get back once I have tried it out - thanks for the tip!!

Yeah, that is because the way Logic handles midi-activated audio effects is asinine...
It has some seriously convoluted routing in order to use such effects.

It isn't necessary to use that workaround in any other DAW, including Live. You can just put the effect on the track you want to use the filter on, then route midi to the effect. No need to use the "sidechain as actual audio chain" thing like in Logic.

Amazing! That's pretty cool! Thanks for the help!