Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
Re: Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
Stringtapper,
"Railing" and "proselytizing" is inflammatory language, and describing this conversation as "first world problems" is demeaning.
This is bullying behavior, and I won't engage it.
If you persist in aggressive posturing, or if you do anything interruptive, then I will report you to the forum moderators, who I know take their jobs seriously.
I recommend you ignore this conversation if have nothing constructive to add.
Thank you.
"Railing" and "proselytizing" is inflammatory language, and describing this conversation as "first world problems" is demeaning.
This is bullying behavior, and I won't engage it.
If you persist in aggressive posturing, or if you do anything interruptive, then I will report you to the forum moderators, who I know take their jobs seriously.
I recommend you ignore this conversation if have nothing constructive to add.
Thank you.
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Re: Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
No sir. You have completely misread me. No bullying going on here. I'm sorry you took it that way. Just adding another perspective to the conversation.mylkoa wrote:Stringtapper,
"Railing" and "proselytizing" is inflammatory language, and describing this conversation as "first world problems" is demeaning.
This is bullying behavior, and I won't engage it.
If you persist in aggressive posturing, or if you do anything interruptive, then I will report you to the forum moderators, who I know take their jobs seriously.
I recommend you ignore this conversation if have nothing constructive to add.
Thank you.
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Re: Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
I'm cool. But I also won't stand being accused of something I didn't do.[jur] wrote:Police here, keep it cool please!
If my choice of words offended the OP then I apologize.
But my comment was completely serious and thoughtful and in no way did it come from a place of bullying or trying to "get" someone on the Internet. Yes the first world problem comment was a snark, but I truly believe there's an element of that going on here.
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Re: Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
I have removed the contested language from my first post (of my own volition).
I suppose we will see if this…
I suppose we will see if this…
…was the truth.mylkoa wrote:-invite discussion (I'm confident in my beliefs, but I welcome a CALM discussion)
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Ok thx Stringtapper.
Let's go back to the topic now.
cheers
j.
Let's go back to the topic now.
cheers
j.
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Re: Anti-Celebrity. Anti-Fame.
I'm listening to some music on soundcloud now... some mixes from a club in NYC called the "Good Room". They also have a section of the venue called the "Bad Room" (clever, right?) In any case, there are some nice mixes on there... many podcasts from so many great DJs, with page upon page of tracklists from so many artists... and again... I thought of this post topic.
Why would I put so much energy and attention on a single artists, when there are thousands and thousands and thousands of great artists? How could anyone think they are a "genius" or "special"? It seems more realistic to me to think that each person is simply one part of a much larger whole.
I can't idolize any single person anymore - there's just too much great music out there.
Why would I put so much energy and attention on a single artists, when there are thousands and thousands and thousands of great artists? How could anyone think they are a "genius" or "special"? It seems more realistic to me to think that each person is simply one part of a much larger whole.
I can't idolize any single person anymore - there's just too much great music out there.
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People on social networks are just trying to carefully cultivate their own minor celebrity status with their “friends” and will lazily chime in on any low hanging fruit topic of the moment.
Same thing with “news” media. They’ll report on something simply because another news source is reporting on it while trying to find their own unique angle. Then there’s the whole “we wouldn’t report on it if people weren’t interested.” How would they know. They never test that theory. Would the world really implode and turn into chaos if they stopped reporting on the Kardashians?
All things combined this greatly exaggerates the perceived importance of people.
Same thing with “news” media. They’ll report on something simply because another news source is reporting on it while trying to find their own unique angle. Then there’s the whole “we wouldn’t report on it if people weren’t interested.” How would they know. They never test that theory. Would the world really implode and turn into chaos if they stopped reporting on the Kardashians?
All things combined this greatly exaggerates the perceived importance of people.
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No, but their ratings and advertising revenue might. Follow the money…beats me wrote:Then there’s the whole “we wouldn’t report on it if people weren’t interested.” How would they know. They never test that theory. Would the world really implode and turn into chaos if they stopped reporting on the Kardashians?
And that's exactly what they mean by "we wouldn’t report on it if people weren’t interested” because it's a racket and they know what "sells" to the masses.
But I return to my question… is it a bad thing that people engage in celebrity worship? I don't personally do it, but that's because I generally don't give a shit rather than it being some moral issue for me. I haven't watched scheduled TV in years (and never did that much even as a kid) and so there is a lot that I miss by default in that way. I have also mostly disengaged from social media and so there are all kinds of things happening that I miss from that too.
I don't care about celebrities but I also don't care about people worshipping celebrities. All of it seems like a weird thing to spend time thinking about to me. I don't really see much a of a difference between spending time thinking about celebrities and spending time thinking about the phenomenon of celebrity, which is ultimately what this thread is about.
And now here I am talking about the phenomenon of people talking about the phenomenon of celebrity.
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You think that's weird, I get paid to read about the people talking about the phenomenon of people talking about the phenomenon of celebrity.stringtapper wrote:And now here I am talking about the phenomenon of people talking about the phenomenon of celebrity.
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Tarekith wrote:You think that's weird, I get paid to read about the people talking about the phenomenon of people talking about the phenomenon of celebrity.stringtapper wrote:And now here I am talking about the phenomenon of people talking about the phenomenon of celebrity.
It's a rough life, E.
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Definitely takes some strange twists, no doubt 
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I welcome people chiming in, so long as it's constructive and civil.beats me wrote:People on social networks are just trying to carefully cultivate their own minor celebrity status with their “friends” and will lazily chime in on any low hanging fruit topic of the moment.
ha!beats me wrote:Would the world really implode and turn into chaos if they stopped reporting on the Kardashians?
I hesitate to agree, because it sounds kinda "negative", but yeah that's basically it... or it's one way of saying itbeats me wrote:All things combined this greatly exaggerates the perceived importance of people.