garyboozy wrote:
i f•••ing LOVE Operator and have used it for many years but since 9.5 it's been screwed.
Ableton seems to have shoehorned in the new filters without making the proper adjustments to make them work correctly, and they changed the filter smoothing behavior when cutoff is automated - making the filters sound sloppy and unresponsive.
Not sure if there were any changes to the filter smoothing behaviour in Operator, but if you can't get what you want then please post a suggestion / bug report to Ableton - the new filters should be better than the old ones when it comes to modulation and tone.
garyboozy wrote: Andy from Cytomic mentioned in another post how there's also an issue where Operator's Osc gains going into the filter isnt high enough. Maybe that's also why the resonance seems to drop out under certain frees.
to see just how broken it can be, try this very basic patch:
BASIC PATCH DL
the resonance of the filter sounds completely uncoupled from the filter's envelope and so it rings out at full volume for however long the Osc's release time is – change Osc A's release time and the resonance will ring for that long and then end abruptly, and there's currently no way to change this.
i wonder if Mr. Henke still uses it?
The default osc gains are pretty hot into the filters, so if you want a classic clean big poly analog sound then lower the osc gains. The main difference between Operator and an analog subtractive poly synth is that the amp envelopes in Operator are PRE filter per oscillator and there is no POST filter envelopes, so for self oscillating filters this just doesn't make sense. A new post filter envelope and amp is needed, or you can just keep the filters below 100% resonance and they will behave just like they always did in previous versions of operator.