Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

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Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by tedlogan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:18 am

A lot of things that have been asked for for a long time in the latest Beta, and possibly a fix for the pad playing feel - though I cannot test this myself until after work tonight. Looking forward to testing these out.

https://www.ableton.com/en/help/article ... ase-notes/

9.7b1 Release Notes
Improvements and feature changes:


The Link beat time will be realigned when starting Live’s playback with Tap Tempo or via Looper.
Beat, Region and Manual Slicing modes have been added to Simpler.
As a consequence of the new Simpler features, Live Sets created with this version cannot be opened with previous versions anymore.

Bugfixes:

When resizing the left edge of a frozen Clip to the left, audio would still begin playback from the Clip’s former start position.
Live would crash when canceling a freeze action, if this was performed on a previously frozen and flattened Clip.

Changes for Push:

The new Simpler Slicing modes are available on Push.
It is now possible to set the color for Tracks, Clips and Drum Rack pads from Push.
It is now possible to adjust the Monitoring state and Input and Output audio routing from Push 2. This is accessible via Track Mix Mode, where a dedicated ‘Input & Output’ button is added.
Introduced a third layout for Drum Racks and Simpler’s Slicing mode, which enables triggering the currently selected pad / Slice with 16 pre-defined velocities.
When transport is active, a progress bar on the display indicates the playback phase for each of the currently playing Clips.
Added a visual feedback for the count-in on the Push 2 display.
The Push 2 Firmware has been updated to version 0.59. This delivers a new pad algorithm that improves the sensitivity of Push pads when playing with wrist pressure. It also contains a fix for cases where Push 2 buttons might double-trigger, and improves the stability of the MIDI data sent from the Push encoders.
Improved the matching between pad and display colors on Push 2.
Improved the matching between Live and Push 2 colors.
On Push 2, the color white in Live is translated as yellow, since white is used to indicate selection.
The intensity of the LEDs in the lower display buttons has been dimmed to create more contrast against the currently selected track.
Improved the performance when moving the Session Ring horizontally with Push.
When routing via Push 2, Pre FX, Post FX and Post Mixer routings are available in a separate list, in order to reduce the amount of routing sources.
When the focus is set to Arrangement View, 'New' is not available on Push anymore.
The Push Record button now takes into account Live’s focus on Arrangement and Session View. If the focus is on Arrangement View, the Session Record button will trigger Global Recording, while the Shift + Record button will trigger / stop Session Recording. The logic is reversed when focused on Session View.
Session Record and Arrangement Record are now independent from each other.
Different sensitivities are in place for the Push 2 pad matrix, depending on the function of the pads in the current layout. This is specifically aimed at avoiding inadvertently changing the loop selector while playing Drum Rack pads.
It is now possible to delete the currently selected Clip in Arrangement via Push 2.
If the selected Clip was in Arrangement View, Push 2 would not display its content in Clip View.
When step-sequencing a Clip in Arrangement View, the playhead would not be shown on Push 2.
When a Drum Rack or Instrument Rack was frozen, it was still possible to edit the Chain's mix parameters.
The Clip length would not be displayed in Clip View, when performing a recording with Fixed Length.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by Tarekith » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:51 am

Yeah lots of good stuff in this one. I really like being able to recolor things from Push now, that's huge for the way I work.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by scheffkoch » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:52 am

...colours for drum rack pads?...yeah!!!...
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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by tedlogan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:57 am

Yeah, that and these are what I'm mostly happy about:

Beat, Region and Manual Slicing modes have been added to Simpler.
It is now possible to set the color for Tracks, Clips and Drum Rack pads from Push.
It is now possible to adjust the Monitoring state and Input and Output audio routing from Push 2. This is accessible via Track Mix Mode, where a dedicated ‘Input & Output’ button is added.
When transport is active, a progress bar on the display indicates the playback phase for each of the currently playing Clips.
The Push 2 Firmware has been updated to version 0.59. This delivers a new pad algorithm that improves the sensitivity of Push pads when playing with wrist pressure. It also contains a fix for cases where Push 2 buttons might double-trigger, and improves the stability of the MIDI data sent from the Push encoders.
Improved the matching between pad and display colors on Push 2.
Improved the matching between Live and Push 2 colors.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by JiggyWig » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:59 am

Sorry if this is dim but are there any notes on how to access the new functionality, specifically the colouring & routing features?

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by tedlogan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:06 pm

Not that I'm aware of, but most of Push's stuff has been pretty intuitive so far. I imagine you access track routing by possibly holding down SHIFT+track or SELECT+track or something of that order...would love to check but at work. Or maybe cycling through MIX modes. Just try combinations, there aren't too many.

EDIT - oops, in my very own post above it states "accessed via track MIX mode -".

not sure about colour.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by Tarekith » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:50 pm

Shift plus Whatever you want to color.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by CheekoStick » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:36 pm

The new beta has officially killed Maschine.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by TheTechnobear » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:27 pm

some really nice stuff in this. Im particularly happy about being able to change audio IO routings/monitoring - Im hoping they add the same for midi, looks likely given the IO menu is there :)
the colour changing for clips and tracks is also very welcome!

a couple of things ive not found:

- When routing via Push 2, Pre FX, Post FX and Post Mixer routings are available in a separate list, in order to reduce the amount of routing sources.
where is this? I can't find this anywhere :)
- When transport is active, a progress bar on the display indicates the playback phase for each of the currently playing Clips.
where? again can't see it...

Ableton is really starting to get through some long standing requests :lol:

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by tedlogan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:04 pm

TheTechnobear wrote:s

- When routing via Push 2, Pre FX, Post FX and Post Mixer routings are available in a separate list, in order to reduce the amount of routing sources.
where is this? I can't find this anywhere :)
It will appear on the same screen on the far right - but only if available for the chosen Input selection. Otherwise there's nothing.
- When transport is active, a progress bar on the display indicates the playback phase for each of the currently playing Clips.
where? again can't see it...
It is a thin line moving from left to right, right underneath each track name.

Really useful update, great aftertouch control now., slice to region or beat for simpler is often desired, changing track and pad colours is really easy and quick.

Routings work great and really useful to me - gotta often change interface input channel, and can now resample MIDI clips very quickly to either convert to simpler or just leave as is, all from Push.

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by ash1 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:43 pm

the new beta is pure genius :lol:

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by JiggyWig » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:43 pm

oh wow, I'm going mad colouring stuff - somebody stop me!

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by JiggyWig » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:44 pm

The progress indicator are great!

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by JiggyWig » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:45 pm

As is the audio routing.

This is a great update!

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Re: Live Beta 9.7b1 - nice

Post by jestermgee » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:56 am

Drum rack colouring... Cannot change colour of an empty cell :(

That's a shame since almost every kit I use is "empty" and routed into an external drum rack such as Battery or EZDrummer. Hope this can be changed.

EDIT: What can be done though is loading a dummy file in each cell (silent WAV file in my case) and then I can name and colour the cell... The colouring is awesome, makes a massive difference and it's saved with a preset. Might have to go and rework all my drum rack presets now. Would love to have a way to "auto colour" cells based on the cell name.

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